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Help needed please
« on: Tuesday 08 May 07 20:19 BST (UK) »
I have found a Joseph Christopher Sockett, 474426 12 Ba., London Regiment, who died 9-9-1917 age unknown.   He is obviously one of my lot but I cannot find a birth record for him or any sign of him in 1901.  To confuse matters there are two other Joseph Christophers around at this time , my grandfather (b1874) who was in Hereford and one born 1910.

This is the first military death I've come across so I don't know where to look for his records.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 May 07 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi
According to SDGW, Joseph' details are as follows:

12th City of London Battalion (The Rangers)
Name:  Joseph Christopher Sockett
No:  474426
Rank:  Rifleman

Born:  Holmer
Enlisted:  Hereford
Residence:  Hereford
Died:  09/09/1917
How:  Killed in Action:  France and Flanders

Formerly:  1576, R.A.M.C., T.F.

Hope this is of help.  Perhaps he can't be found on the 1901 Census as he might have been serving abroad.

Here is his medal card which you can download for 3.50

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ii/

 A visit to the National Archives at Kew could provide more information of army records.

Once you download his medal card, you could post it here where someone can hopefully give you more information.


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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 May 07 23:28 BST (UK) »
From memory there was a William Henry Sockett running the Swansea House of industry in the early 1820s. Any relative? He left a printed account of how he ran the place at the Swansea Museum.

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 May 07 17:29 BST (UK) »
Atom,

That is fantastic.  I had an idea that there was a Hereford link.
I will download the medal card this evening.
Thank you


Bernard
Yes, Henry was the defence barrister for Dick Penderyn.  There is plenty of info regarding his time in Swansea, but he left under a bit of a cloud and his life is a bit sketchy until his death in Bath in 1848.  I am yet to find him in 1841.

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Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 May 07 18:40 BST (UK) »
From memory the pamphlet is partly an attempt to dispel rumours that he had fiddled the books!

He was appointed 'visitor' in 1818 and carried out that role for 14 years; during which time he singularly failed to submit any accounts!

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 May 07 21:33 BST (UK) »
I will download the medal card this evening.

 Thats good Fisherman,Look forward to seeing the MIC.

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 May 07 21:29 BST (UK) »
His medal card - not much info on it.
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 May 07 22:01 BST (UK) »
Well Fisherman!

Not a lot to go on with the MIC.  However he did get two medal as mentioned the Victory and the British medal.
He was not in France and Flanders before January 1916, but that is not to say that he was not participating elsewhere.

The roll number along with the page number is handy if you ever decide to visit TNA to look up the roll and perhaps find out more information on your man.

If you do get a chance to visit Kew, it would also be worthwhile to check-out the War Diary of the 12th City of London Bn (The Rangers) for a synopsis of the events/battle going on at the front around the  time he died.

Anne  :)
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 May 07 22:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne,

I might be on his trail.
I have a Joseph who would have been 22 at the outbreak of war.
He was living in Homer, Hereford in 1901 and his parents say he was born there.  The only birth registration for a Joseph in 1892 was in Cannock Staffs.
I've sent for the cert in the hope that the parents match up.
I have been told that his parents might have added Christopher at his baptism.

Chris
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk