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HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« on: Wednesday 09 May 07 12:57 BST (UK) »
I have recently inherited from my stepmother a family bible for the Hamer family (her mother was Ethel Louise Hamer b 1904 d 1966)
The Hamers are originally from Stokesay Parish, Clunbury and Clun in Shropshire (I also have a handwritten family tree prepared by my stepmothers Uncle, tracing back to Richard Hamer b 1705, Clunbury).
The earliest entry in the in memorium pages in the bible is for John Hamer, b 30.3.1838, who died 20.1.1872 in the South Africa diamond fields. The surnames on the page switch to Garnett (my stepmothers grandmother).
I'd be really happy if I could return this bible to a blood descendent of the family - please contact me if you are one, want more info, or can help trace someone who is....
Cheers
Dave
CHARLES, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire prior to about 1750
MALYON, Buckland / Therfield Herts (to 1861) and St George in the East (from 1871) The name appears in the census in various guises, including - Mallyan. Malyan. Mailon. Malson. Mallyon. Mallion. Malyun. Mallian. Maylin. Mealing. Meeling. Mailing. Maylen. Maylon.
DOVE, Shoreditch, 1841-1901.

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 August 07 21:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,

Is there any reference to where the members of the Garnet family were born? I have James Garnet...he was my GX4 Grandfather....his father was also a James. They were born about 1770 and 1750, but that is very approximate and around the Lancs areas.... Lyn  :-\

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 August 07 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Lyn.
The references to Garnetts in the bible are as follows
- Isabella Garnett d 13.11.1900, Norwood
- Maria Garnett d 24.4.1914, Norwood
- Frederick Garnett b 22.10.1886, d 27.7.1959, Torquay
Other papers I've inherited refer to
- Charles Garnett d 12.5.1928, Wallington, Surrey
- Ellen Garnett d 26.5.1950, Hove, Sussex.
Doesn't look like there is a connection with your tree, unless you know differently...
Cheers
Dave
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CHARLES, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire prior to about 1750
MALYON, Buckland / Therfield Herts (to 1861) and St George in the East (from 1871) The name appears in the census in various guises, including - Mallyan. Malyan. Mailon. Malson. Mallyon. Mallion. Malyun. Mallian. Maylin. Mealing. Meeling. Mailing. Maylen. Maylon.
DOVE, Shoreditch, 1841-1901.

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 August 07 13:55 BST (UK) »
:'( Thanks Dave, I think you are correct. Although the name Isabel come down the family from the Garnetts...it also comes down through many families. If these Garnetts are related to me it would have been after the family left my line. It would be lovely to find I have lots of Garnett distant cousins, but good luck with your search. I will make a note of the names, dates and places on the slim chance I find where they fit in. Thanks again. Lyn


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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 May 17 11:25 BST (UK) »
Hi, just joined and noted your post about the Hamer bible. My wife's mother was a Hamer, and sadly we lost a lot of history when the family bible went missing.  Is there any chance you could email me a copy of the Hamer family details you have? It would be greatly appreciated. ..

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 June 17 11:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Peter
Sorry for the delay in replying. I don't use RootsChat much at all these days!
Can I ask how you are related to the Hamers to make sure we are talking about the same line. My stepmother is Patricia (nee Longmead), daughter of Ethel L M Hamer (1904-1966) and William Longmead (1899-1975) and granddaughter of Ernest Tindall Hamer (1870-1939, died in Dearborne USA) and Eliza M Privett (1870-1904).
I have a tortuous family history of my stepmother's Hamer line available, full of marriages and remarriages and people with the same name (Especially Maria). All very confusing.
I'm happy to send you what I've got as an attachment if can first you let me know the connection (for obvious reasons)
Dave
CHARLES, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire prior to about 1750
MALYON, Buckland / Therfield Herts (to 1861) and St George in the East (from 1871) The name appears in the census in various guises, including - Mallyan. Malyan. Mailon. Malson. Mallyon. Mallion. Malyun. Mallian. Maylin. Mealing. Meeling. Mailing. Maylen. Maylon.
DOVE, Shoreditch, 1841-1901.

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 June 17 07:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,
I don't know too much sadly.

My wife's mother (Gladys) is a Hamer. Her father's name was William (born 1905 approx in South Africa), and apparently his father was also a William (born 1877 in Old Malthouse, Wales). His father was named David Hamer, born circa 1840. Strangely, my mother in law believed that William Hamer was born in Australia,  so there is a bit of confusion.
Regards,
Peter

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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 June 17 08:15 BST (UK) »

My wife's mother
(Gladys) is a Hamer.

Her father's name was
William (born 1905 approx in South Africa),

and apparently his father was also a
William (born 1877 in Old Malthouse, Wales).

His father was named
David Hamer, born circa 1840.

Strangely, my mother in law believed that
William Hamer was born in Australia,  so there is a bit of confusion.


Hi Peter

Don't know if you have access to census records but here's the 1881 census entry
for William born 1877 with his father David Hamer address Old Malthouse
 RG11; Piece: 5497; Folio: 76; Page: 4
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-WWLQ

There is a baptism at Berriew Montgomery for
David Hamer 19th April 1840 parents Richard occ Lab. & Mary
1851c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGD9-VTL

ADDED -

Did David HAMER marry Elizabeth PARRY 1860 Montgomery ?

GRO indexes give mmn PARRY for the following children

HAMER, WILLIAM   
1877  M Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 721   
 
This looks to be David with wife and children 1871

David Hamer born Berriw with wife Elizabeth & 5  children
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V518-Z4C

HAMER, DAVID          
1861  J Quarter in MONTGOMERY  Volume 11B  Page 253   

HAMER, RICHARD       
1863  M Quarter in MONTGOMERY  Volume 11B  Page 240   

HAMER, JOHN          
1865  J Quarter in MONTGOMERY  Volume 11B  Page 255   

HAMER, GRIFFITH        
1867  S Quarter in MONTGOMERY  Volume 11B  Page 246   

HAMER, HENRY           
1870  J Quarter in MONTGOMERY  Volume 11B  Page 246

Do you know who William Hamer bn 1877 married and when he left for SA or Australia?   




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Re: HAMER / GARNETT family bible
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, but no, that's the extent of our knowledge!