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Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« on: Sunday 13 May 07 12:44 BST (UK) »
I was in the Lancashire Records Office yesterday and came across what could well be the baptism of my great-great grandfather John Stevenson/Stephenson at St Bartholomew's in Colne 29th March 1829.

Unfortunately there was a splodge (non-technical term  ;) ) over the residence.  I could get Coldwea[..]er House, Guis[....].  Looking at Google maps, I realise Guis[...] could be Gisburn Rd.  From the 1861 census, I know he was born in Barrowford, so that definitely fits.  His father, John Stevenson, was a farmer.

Can anyone help me identify a Coldweather House?  I've tried modern maps (and the Post Office postcode finder) and google, and while there's a couple of hints, I can't find anything that would pin it down.  Google had something about the hunt coming over Cold Weather down to Barrowford.
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 May 07 13:49 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Cold Weather House is off the Gisburn Road (on the right), but you will need to follow it up a bit further than Barrowford.  It is Past Blacko towards Gisburn.  Just higher up than Admergill.  If you still can`t find it let me know.

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Mo

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 May 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Actually I just had a look at google maps and multimap and it`s not showing up.  However, on google maps type in the postcode BB9 6NQ (this is for Greystones), when the map appears drag it down and towards the right slightly so that Greystones is to the bottom right. You should see a road cutting across Gisburn Road from the bottom left hand corner towards the top of the map.    Click on Satellite and you will see quite a substantial farm at the northern most end of this road . That is Cold Weather House.

After typing the above I find that the http://mario.lancashire.gov.uk map is much better.  Open the mario viewer select search/find, Place, then Village.  Select Blacko.  Depending on your screen resolution you should see Cold Weather House marked at the top and in the centre.  If not just pan north.

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Mo
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 May 07 22:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Mosiefish.

It's really exciting to find that not only does the house where your g-g grandfather was born still exist, but that's it's still called the same.

Wonder if it's still in the family ...  :o

I love Lancs CC's Mario site - the historical overlays of the first edition OS maps onto modern mapping are just brilliant!  It's interesting that the 1st ed. OS maps on MARIO respect the "proper" county boundaries, so the bits of Lancashire that were in Yorkshire around here and Bowland don't appear. 
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 May 07 22:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Googling lancashire "Cold Weather House" brings up a photo on Geograph.  Also it looks like it is now owned by someone called Parkinson.

Yes I like the mario maps too.  At least the first edition maps look like they used to on the old maps site.  The old maps site has been altered and not for the better in my opinion.

Regards.
Mo


 
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 May 07 15:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that.  I'd since found the reference to Parkinsons, but google still hadn't thrown up that photo for me!
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 May 07 13:11 BST (UK) »
I've realised I should have posted this on the Yorkshire board  ;D

But that realisation has enabled me to find them on the 1841 census - John Stevenson the father has disappeared, but mother (Mary Stephenson) and daughters (Elizabeth and Martha) are in Howgill near Rimington, and John the son is an ag lab at Middop Hall, again near Rimington.

While trying to find who was at Cold Weather House Farm in 1841 (Thomas and Elizabeth Lawson and their family) I had fun tracing the routes of the enumerators on a modern map.  Very easy to do (in that area at least).  Some of the district boundaries were a bit unfortunate for the poor enumerators: at first I thought the residents of Cold Weather House Farm must have fed their census to the cows, as the schedule goes from properties to the north to properties to the south, but omitting Cold Weather House.  Then I found it (and my lot) in an adjoining district.

On the 1851 census (HO107/2254; Folio: 694; Page: 1), Mary Stephenson and two daughters (Ellen, who must be Elizabeth, and Martha) are in Barrowford, together with two mysterious grandsons, Thomas & John Stephenson.  I've sent for Thomas' birth cert to see what that says.  John Stevenson has disappeared (he reappears in 1852 in Leyland marrying Isabella Noble).
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Coldweather, Barrowford, Colne
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 April 12 15:32 BST (UK) »
Going back in my family tree i have a Margaret Nutter Baptized in 1760 in St Bartholomew, Colne,
Death  7 Oct 1814 St Bartholomew, Colne,
Marriage to John Whittaker 7 Jan 1786 St Bartholomew, Colne,
Living at Coldweather House Admergill

Regards Jill