Newbie at searching for family tree and getting very frustrated! HELP

[Rherri2006]

I have been given the job to myself to look for my fathers line in the our family tree, and im not getting anywhere fast,  I could do with some advice on the best online sites that are free to check out marriage certs, birth certs etc.  I seem to have searched loads on the internet for my Great Great grandad but he doesn't seem to appear anywhere -

Francis George Kirk born 1857, this is all I have, don't know where he was born etc, He was married in 1880 to an Emma Annie (no surname) PLEASE HELP!.

Thanks

[Kazza]

Hi,

A good place to start is FreeBMD,  as the name suggests a free site with the index of Births,  Marriages and Deaths in the UK.  Not all of the records are on there yet,  but you may get something to help.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Your next port of call could be the Family Search site that has census and other information and is also free:

http://www.familysearch.org/

The GENUKI site is the best site for information about how to start it all off:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/

And of course this site is pretty good at advice.  You could try having a wander around some of the boards and explore a few links.

Try these,  let us know how you get on, and we will advise further.

Good luck,

Kazza.

[jaq]

HI,
on 1901 online there is ref to francis kirk
age 45 born notts arnold.living at Nottingham.
also a coincidence, a Emma Kirk,age 43,born notts Basford, living at Nottingham.
and other francis /emma Kirks [just to confuse ]
his occupation "market gardener" its a shame 1901 took away the peice/folios numbers so we could check.
obviously may not be yours at all.
i think i would go for the birth cert of francis & emmas son/daughter[your other set of grandparents]
welcome to the best detective hobby..tracing our families.
watch this space, i'm sure other more experienced people can help you more.

jaq

[Rinnie]

Hi

 It is possible that Francis george and Emma might have used just one or both of their names, changing which one they used on the census!, I have found that alot with my ancestors!

I have found a marriage for a George Kirk to an Emma Norris in Mar 1880!

 Marriages Mar 1880  
Kirk    George        Pancras    1b   95
Lever    James         Pancras    1b   95
Norris    Emma         Pancras    1b   95
STACEY    Louie         Pancras    1b   95

on the Free BMD, but I found no Francis.

I also found on the 1881 census:


 George KIRK     Head     M     Male     27     Arnold, Nottingham, England     Labourer
 Emma KIRK     Wife     M     Female     23     Arnold, Nottingham, England      
 George KIRK     Son          Male     4     Arnold, Nottingham, England     Scholar
 Susannah KIRK     Daur          Female     3     Arnold, Nottingham, England      
 James KIRK     Son          Male     1     Arnold, Nottingham, England      

Dwelling 25 Front Street
    Census Place Arnold, Nottingham, England  
    Family History Library Film 1341796
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 3336 / 92
    Page Number 37

and

 George KIRK     Head     M     Male     25     Metheringham, Lincoln, England     Brewers Carter
 Annie KIRK     Wife     M     Female     21     Burton On Trent, Stafford, England      

Dwelling     51 Hodgson St
Census Place   Ecclesall Bierlow, York, England
Family History Library Film     1342118
Public Records Office Reference     RG11
Piece / Folio     4631 / 108
Page Number     15

Don't forget though that the ages on the census aren't always their true age!!  

Hope this helps

Rin  

[kevan]

Hi,
    This might be the right Francis Kirk. In 1891, a Francis Kirk is living in West Ham, Stratford. He is married to an Emma, aged 29, and born in Panfield , Essex.
    Francis is shown as being born , in (what looks like) Coleford, Gloucestershire, he is aged 33.
They have three children -  Francis, James and Emme aged 6. 4 and 1 respectively. Francis is a stoker, Stationery Engine whatever that means.
Best
kevan


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[Chris in 1066Land]

stationery, noun, - as written above:

1. the items needed for writing, such as paper, pens, pencils and envelopes
2. good quality paper for writing letters on and matching envelopes


Stationary Engine - A Steam Traction Engine that does not move of its own accord - used for powering machinery.

Stoker - The man who feeds the fire.

Chris in 1066Land

[kevan]

Transcription errors are the bane of most peoples lives. So, I note the stationery engine is not an engine for paper products. Well spotted.
On another note, this site is doing rather well. Well done administrators for being in touch ALL the time.
Long may it continue.
Best
Kevan