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Any earlier census - Sainty
« on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:10 BST (UK) »
Can anybody see a Philip Robert Sainty b. 1802 married to an Elizabeth.  They married in 1821 in Stepney.  Philip appears to have been born in Essex.


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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:26 BST (UK) »
Any earlier than which census, KA?
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Any early census - Sainty
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry!  I can't find them in the 1881 - so presuming deceased by then.  Given they married in 1821, I am hopeful they may appear in the 41, 51 or 61. 

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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:37 BST (UK) »
In 41, Ipswich, St Clement, Albion St

Philip Sainty 40 Shipwright Not born in county
Elizabeth "  30                             do
Eliza         12
Philip        14
Elizabeth  10
Mary          6
Henry        5
Joseph       2

none born in county
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L


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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:44 BST (UK) »
This looks like younger Philip in 1861

Colchester, Hird Ward, 65 Hythe Quay,

Philip Sainty 34 H Ships Carpenter Essex Colchester
Ellen     34                                      Suffolk Ipswich
Ellen     12                                            do
Elizabeth  10                                         do
Charlotte  9                                           do
Philip  5                                           Essex Colchester
Joseph  8mths                                       do
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 May 07 22:53 BST (UK) »
I don't have access to 51 census,

There is a death Dec q 1851 in Ipswich for Philip Sainty

looks like daughter Elizabeth married Dec q 1850 possibly to Anthony BRECKLES
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 May 07 23:20 BST (UK) »
Here's 1851:

Duke St, Ipswich St Clement

Philip Sainty Head Mar 25 Foundry Labourer Essex Wivenhoe
Ellen do Wife Mar 25 Suffolk Ipswich
Philip do Son 5 Suffolk Ipswich
Ellen do Daur 3 Suffolk Ipswich
Eliza do Daur 1 Suffolk Ipswich

HO107/1800 folio 111 p24

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 May 07 23:47 BST (UK) »
1851 Colchester (St Leonard) Essex
HO 107/1781 folio 652 page 26

"Barrack Ground"
Philip Sainty, head, 51, ship carpenter, Brightlingsea Essex
Elizabeth, wife, 45, Wivenhoe Essex
Mary, daur, 18, tailoress, Colchester Essex
Henry, son, 15, errant [sic] boy, Wivenhoe Essex
Joseph, son, 13, ship carpenters boy, Wivenhoe Essex
Walter, son, 10, do, Ipswich Suffolk
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Any earlier census - Sainty
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 May 07 23:52 BST (UK) »
1861 Colchester (St Botolph) Essex
RG 9/1097 folio 93 page 30

Malling Yard Quay
Phillip Sainty, head, mar, 62, ship wright, Brightlingsea Essex
Elizabeth do., wife, 56, Wivenhoe Essex
Charlotte Warren, servant, 56, house keeper, Gt Tey Essex
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast