Missing Clayton bridegroom

[cheshiremog]

Dear Heywood
Here is a copy of the marr cert
but no witnesses from Elizabeth's side
her father is not mentioned as being deceased so is hopefully still about somewhere
Have to finish off the roast dinner now !
Starving teenagers are now harrasing me for food
Will be back soon !!!

[heywood]

No as you say- no real clues there.

James Clayton married Edith Sharratt so there is no mistranscription there or being called by another christian name - a puzzle! He is an engineer

Ha ha! Just found this    a couple of entries below James and Edith

1841 HO107; Piece 107; Book: 13
Tytherington
William Clayton 28 yrs engineer
Ann 29 yrs
Ellin 7 yrs
Maria 3 yrs
Hannah Harding 16 yrs silk spinner

all born in county
that would be Maria Cleaver -- I hope!

[heywood]

1851 HO107; Piece: 2158; Folio: 288; Page: 18

Hurdsfield Rd Hursdfield

Malachi Dowling 48 yrs letterpress Printer and Provision Dealer b Dublin
Elizabeth 46 yrs attends to the shop b Ireland Balleston
Charlotte 13 yrs bonnet maker's apprentice b Macclesfield
Hannah Harden lodger 24 yrs soft silk winder b Hurdsfield
Catharine Walsh 29 yrs soft silk winder b Dublin
Ellen Clayton visitor 17 yrs engine piecer b Tytherington
Maria Clayton visitor 13 yrs engine piecer b Tytherington

[heywood]

I feel as though I am now moving further away from our original quest and I won't give full details but Free BMD has a marriage for Ellen Clayton Dec qr 1854- possible groom Richard Mellor.
1861 census RG9; Piece: 2979; Folio: 40; Page: 17
has Ellen Mellor (looks like married) 28 yrs niece staying in Ashton u Lyne with a John Harding and his wife Mary (who seems to be 2nd wife because there are step sons called Fox, all Irish) all so complex.
I think this is Ellen Clayton and the Harding connection is there. She is back with husband Richard in 1871.
There is an Elizabeth Harding aged 10 yrs born Macclesfield but don't think it's Elizabeth Clayton - can't find the Hardings in 1851.

hope all this helps in some way or other and does not mess it up too much- I'm off on holiday tomorrow so might have to wait a couple of weeks to catch up.

best wishes to all
heywood

[cheshiremog]

Dear Heywood
This is all super news! Wow - I never thought of looking at the Cleaver connection - never gave it a thought ! And Maria Cleaver is Elizabeth's sister all along! Yes the Hannah Harding connection is right too.
I guess James Clayton - engineer and his wife Edith may be related to William Clayton ?

Lots to look at here now. I will follow everything through very carefully and the other possibilities you have mentioned.

Do you know where Tytherington is near ?

Thank you so much - I just nipped off to finish the dinner and came back to a veritable dessert ! Coffee and mints coming up !

[fairlane]

As your other contacts are offline just jumping in to say Tytherington is a suburb of Macclesfield.

[cheshiremog]

Thanks for that fairlane !

Any ideas on where Werneth and Godley are ?

I am going great shakes now
Have found William Clayton on later censuses and also another daughter named Harriet who married a John Shirley

Once again rootschat members have really helped !
Thank you all

[heywood]

Hi again,
need to go and pack!
Godley and Werneth are near or part of Hyde - Google map will show you.
I had seen that WIlliam and Harriet and wondered but just seemed to be spreading out everywhere. So glad that it is coming together

best wishes again
Kath

[cheshiremog]

Thanks heywood
Hope you have a good holiday
I have just been round in a huge circle and will probably be totally dizzy by the time you get back
Yes I traced William forwards - then found Harriet and traced them both all the way back again to find William still with his daughter Harriet in 1841 and a wife named Eliza. So could not be my William who is also on the 1841 with his wife Ann.
Mighty strange ! Both William's claim to have been engineers at various times (unusual I would have thought) and both come from Cheshire and both are born within a year of each other and both are driving me nuts and bolts!
Never mind I have definately made progress with what you have found.