Jane Clay born approx 1800 Hanmer

[audbr]

Hi,
Can anybody help.
I am looking for reference to the birth (baptism) of a Jane Clay who was born sometime around 1800 at Hanmer, Flintshire.
Many thanks in anticipation of your help.
Regards
Brian

[wrjones]

There is a Baptism of a Jane Clay in nearby Penley on the 3rd of September 1809,to Parents John and Ann Clay.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[audbr]

William,
Thanks for that information. I am not sure if that is the correct Jane Clay or not.
The Jane Clay I am after as:
Aged 42 in the 1841 census i.e born 1798/99
aged 51 in the 1851 census i.e born 1799/1800
Aged 60 in the 1861 census i.e born 1801/02.
In the 1851 & 1861 census she gives her place of birth as Hanmer.
She was married in December 1822 at Shocklach in Cheshire.
Do you know if Penley is part of Hammer Parish?
Do you have access to Hanmer Parish records?
Regards
Brian

[wrjones]

According to the IGI Jane married James Warburton at Shochlach on the 31st of December 1821.The IGI further lists the Baptism of a Jane Clay at Hanmer in 1794 to Parents John and Ann Clay.I don't have the Parish Registers for Hanmer at home,but have access to them at the Resource Centre of Clwyd FHS,which I will be going to hopefully this Tuesday. As far as Penley is concerned,it is about three miles from Hanmer.You can see further details of the Hanmer Parish at;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Hanmer/index.html

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[audbr]

Hi William,
Thanks for your reply.
you are correct Jane Clay married in 1821. I had finger problems when typing my reply to you.
The Jane Clay christened in Hanmer 1794 looks possible. She was older than her husband and could have under estimated her age in the 1841 to 1861 censuses.
I did niot realise that Hanmer was on the IGI. I have a link to web site with IGI batch numbers and Hanmer is missing from Flintshire. If you could look up the Hanmer parish records sometime that would be great. Any information on Jane Clay and her family would be very welcome.
Regards
Brian

[wrjones]

Another way of accessing the Clay info on the IGI on the LDS Site,is on the main search page,click on IGI,just fill in British Isles,Wales and Flint,and just enter the Surname of Clay.You will find the Batch Numbers for Hanmer this way.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[wrjones]

After todays visit to the Resource Centre of Clwyd FHS,I can confirm that the Baptism of Jane Clay in 1794 I quoted earlier,is the only possibility.There was no Baptism for a Jane Clay at Hanmer in c 1800.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

[Paul]

I'll second that William she was the only one I could find at the records office April 27 1794.


Paul.

[audbr]

Paul & William,
Thank for both your replies.
It looks to me that Jane Clay was baptised in 1794 and that for some reason she underestimated her age in the 1841, 1851 & 1861 censuses. Now that I have realised that Hanmer christenings are on te IGI I have had a look in more detail at the christenings at Hanmer.

It would appear that Jane Clay had a daughter Ann who was christened on 15th Jan 1815. Which means she was still in Hanmer in 1815.

Jane Clay's (baptised 1794) parents were John Clay and Ann (possibly nee Edwards). Are there any marriage records on the IGI from Hanmer as I haven't found any yet?

I wonder if the father John Clay is the John Clay who was christened in 1755 father Richard

I hve summarised below the christenings of the Clay families in Hanmer:
Sarah   Clay   Chr   14 Jan 1753   richd clay   
John   Clay   Chr   26 Jan 1755   richd clay   
Martha   Clay   Chr   06 Aug 1758   richd clay   

Richard   Clay   Chr   09 May 1784   John Clay   Ann edwards
Elizabeth   Clay   Chr   16 Apr 1786   John Clay   Ann
John   Clay   Chr   25 May 1788   John Clay   ann
Thomas    Clay   Chr   Feb 1790   John Clay   Ann
…mes   Clay   Chr   8 Jun 1792   John Clay   Ann
Jane    Clay   Chr   27 Apr 1794   John Clay   Ann
Sarah    Clay   Chr   07 Apr 1799   John Clay   ann

ann   Clay   Chr   15 Jan 1815   Jane Clay   

Sarah   Clay   Chr   05 Mar 1809   John Clay   Margaret
John   Clay   Chr   14 Oct 1810   John clay   Margaret
eliza   Clay   Chr   02 May 1813   John Clay   margaret
Robert   Clay   Chr   12 mar 1815   John Clay   Margaret
Mary    Clay   Chr   12 Aug 1821   John Clay   margaret
Wlliam   Clay   Chr   16 Nov 1823   John Clay   Margaret

Male   Clay   Chr   03 Jan 1796   …ard Clay   Ann
Willm   Clay   Chr   13 May 1804   richd clay   Eliz

william   Clay   Chr   06 Jan 1754   Thomas Clay   
               
William   Clay   Chr   03 Feb 1756   Wm. Clay   
Sarah   Cly   Chr   03 Sep 1758   Wm. Clay   

Rd   Clay   Chr   23 Nov 1760   willm Clay   Sarah
Joseph   Clay   Chr   20 May 1764   Wm. Clay   
Catherine Clay   Chr   20 Apr 1766   william Clay   
Mary   Clay   Chr   22 Dec 1767   william Clay   
Richd   Clay   Chr   08 Oct 1769   william Clay   mary
Richard    Clay   Chr   08 May 1771   william Clay   sarah

thos   Cly   Chr   05 aug 1798   Edward clay   Anne
Willm   Clay   Chr   25 Jul 1802   Edward clay   Anne
Anne    Clay   Chr   09 Feb 1806   Edward clay   Anne
Richard   Clay   Chr   25 Sep 1808   Edward clay   Anne
John   Clay   Chr   13 Dec 1813   Edward clay   anne
Elizabeth   Clay   Chr   16 Oct 1814   Edward clay   Anne

Richard   Clay   Chr   24 Apr 1808   Elizabeth Clay   
Thomas    Clay   Chr   03 Apr 1814   Elizabeth Clay   

Many thanks for all your help.
Regards
Brian