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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 11:37 BST (UK) »
Well, it would be nice to confirm it by finding a marriage to BAYLISS, but it's starting to fall together....  8)

Back to the BMDs!

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PS.  Shardlow is in Derbyshire, but the registration district also covers bits of Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire.
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:40 BST (UK) »
I found a couple of interesting births - I suspect Walter SMITH and Sarah LOWE were together for some time before they actually married...  ::)

Births Mar 1907  (>99%)
LOWE    Walter Smith        
Shardlow 7b 516

Births Sep 1908
LOWE    Harold Smith        
Shardlow 7b 546

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:41 BST (UK) »
I have just noticed it says Clara L S..Lowe...


wonder if its Clara Lilian Sarah ???

would they be on any census do you think ?
SLADEN,....NOTTINGHAM,NEWARK,MIDDLESEX.ST PANCRAS.
SMITH,......NOTTINGHAM,SHARDLOW
LOWE,.......NOTTINGHAM,SHEFFIELD,SHARDLOW
DUFFIN,....NOTTINGHAM,YORKSHIRE
WRIGHT,...NOTTINGHAM  
GOLLIN.....ILKESTON
BLAKE......ILKESTON,GALWAY


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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:45 BST (UK) »
oh my how good are you !!!!


ok are you ready for this....


Lilian had older brothers and yes you have guessed it,,,

walter and harold !!!

now there was also leslie eric and lenoard !! plus another 2 sisters but younger...so i am wondering....
was my grandad walter smith father to the younger ones and the older ones by someone else....

now you said walter smith and harold smith then lowe....
so now i am wondering even more !!!!!



SLADEN,....NOTTINGHAM,NEWARK,MIDDLESEX.ST PANCRAS.
SMITH,......NOTTINGHAM,SHARDLOW
LOWE,.......NOTTINGHAM,SHEFFIELD,SHARDLOW
DUFFIN,....NOTTINGHAM,YORKSHIRE
WRIGHT,...NOTTINGHAM  
GOLLIN.....ILKESTON
BLAKE......ILKESTON,GALWAY

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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:47 BST (UK) »
Judging from the entries that MR found it's more likely to be Clara Lily SMITH Lowe.
At least the confusion of dates mentioned earlier is sorting itself out.

Richard
All the families I am researching are listed on the main page here:
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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:49 BST (UK) »
... or Clara Lily Smith LOWE!

They'll be on the 1911 census - but we've got to wait a few years for that one!

(Well, the parents will be on the 1901, but it will be tricky to find the right ones with no dates of birth, occupation, etc to help.)

Once you get the birth certificate to confirm your grandparents' exact names, you can work backwards via their marriage cert (which will give their ages and fathers' names), and hopefully confirm some of the facts we've been searching for.

POST CROSSED WITH RICHARD!

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 13:53 BST (UK) »
well apart from a massive thanks..you have given me lots to look for.

so maybe in those days if parents wasnt married they did put the fathers name and mother ?

when will that census be viewable then !
SLADEN,....NOTTINGHAM,NEWARK,MIDDLESEX.ST PANCRAS.
SMITH,......NOTTINGHAM,SHARDLOW
LOWE,.......NOTTINGHAM,SHEFFIELD,SHARDLOW
DUFFIN,....NOTTINGHAM,YORKSHIRE
WRIGHT,...NOTTINGHAM  
GOLLIN.....ILKESTON
BLAKE......ILKESTON,GALWAY

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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 16:31 BST (UK) »
Usually, only the mother's name is given on birth certs of illegitimate children.  On marriage certs, there is either nothing, or sometimes an "invented" father for the sake of appearances - I have both in my family.  ::)

I think there's a strong chance Walter SMITH was the father of all Sarah LOWE's children, although this will probably be impossible to prove!  However, if the 1911 census shows them living together as husband and wife, that will be another piece of circumstantial evidence.  (The full 1911 census will be released on the first working day of 2012, but apparently partial details will be released in 2009 - no exact date announced.....)

And at the risk of confusing things still further (sorry!), I found 2 marriages which you might want to keep in mind, even though I'm not completely certain I'm on the right trail here:

Leslie L BAYLISS m. Clara L MEAKIN, Jun Q 1941, Nottingham 7b 1131.

James MEAKIN m. Lily SMITH, Mar Q 1937, Nottingham 7b 512.

Could this be Clara Lily LOWE/STEVENSON?

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: BMD Look Up Please
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 30 May 07 16:34 BST (UK) »
Rambler i cant thank you enough for all this.....


i am digging and will let you know what i find....


big big thanks

she did marry a les bayliss i know that for sure because she has a son Ken by him...

the meakin name well my !! how many husbands did she have !
SLADEN,....NOTTINGHAM,NEWARK,MIDDLESEX.ST PANCRAS.
SMITH,......NOTTINGHAM,SHARDLOW
LOWE,.......NOTTINGHAM,SHEFFIELD,SHARDLOW
DUFFIN,....NOTTINGHAM,YORKSHIRE
WRIGHT,...NOTTINGHAM  
GOLLIN.....ILKESTON
BLAKE......ILKESTON,GALWAY