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MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« on: Friday 01 June 07 12:31 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for my MARTIN ancestors.....

Thomas MARTIN, b. abt 1836 Eltham, Kent.  Lived in "Fryths Buildings" ?  Possibly married Emma STEAD in 1857 ?

and ancestors of the above person ?  They all seemed to live around Eltham Church / High Street area.
RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 June 07 19:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Nick

Do you have your Thomas on all the available census ie. do the early (1841/1851 census) give any indication of his parents?

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 June 07 20:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Nick, welcome to Rootschat.
This looks like his marriage

Marriages Dec quarter 1857   
Martin  Thomas            Lewisham  1d 873   
Stead  Emma                Lewisham  1d 873 

Betty
 

KENT:
Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 June 07 20:29 BST (UK) »
It looks like you have him in 1851, living in Elham in what looks to me like 'Friths' Buildings. The funny thing is, also living there is a Richard Skinner born Deal, who may well be one of my Deal Skinners that I haven't discovered yet! Spooky  ;D

Betty
KENT:
Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 June 07 20:54 BST (UK) »
There's a christening on FamilySearch for
Thomas Martin  26 JUL 1835   Saint John, Eltham, Kent.
 Parents William Martin & Mary.
 It's an extracted record, ( Batch number C067821  1831 - 1846  0307731   Film ) so should be reliable, & the parents names tie in with the 1841 & 1851 censuses.

Betty
KENT:
Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 June 07 21:05 BST (UK) »
There's 27 MARTINs of Elham christenings on that same batch number. I haven't looked at all of them, but there's a William  05 JAN 1834  Saint John, Eltham, Kent.  Death 23 FEB 1834 Parents William & Mary.

Betty   
 
KENT:
Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Nick, welcome to Rootschat.
This looks like his marriage

Marriages Dec quarter 1857   
Martin  Thomas            Lewisham  1d 873   
Stead  Emma                Lewisham  1d 873 

Betty
 



Hi and thanks for the welcome !

Yes I think that's him.  However it seems an unlikely marriage - he was a bricklayer, and she came from a fairly well-to-do family.  I'm waiting for the son's birth certificate, then I'll be able to see the mother's maiden name.  I'm still quite new to all this - I've only been researching for a couple of months.  Thanks for your help !  :)

P.S. re your other post - I'm referring to Eltham in Kent, not Elham - I get confused between those two !
RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:35 BST (UK) »
There's a christening on FamilySearch for
Thomas Martin  26 JUL 1835   Saint John, Eltham, Kent.
 Parents William Martin & Mary.
 It's an extracted record, ( Batch number C067821  1831 - 1846  0307731   Film ) so should be reliable, & the parents names tie in with the 1841 & 1851 censuses.

Betty

Hmmm... sorry !  In my confusion this morning, I entered the wrong generation.  I have William and Mary, but I can't go any further back than 1811.  I've ordered a copy of the St John Parish registers from the Kent FHS, but they haven't arrived yet.

Sorry for the confusion, but I'm still a newbie at all this !
RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: MARTIN - Eltham, pre 1840 ?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:52 BST (UK) »
No need to apologise, it's easy to get confused  ;D
There's 27 MARTINs of Elham 
Of course I meant Eltham!!
I hope you find what you are looking for when you get the copies of the parish registers.

Betty
KENT:
Stutely - Wittersham & Stone
Padgham - Wittersham
Wanstall - Northbourne
Taylor - Ringwould & Ash
Skinner - Deal
Bushell - Walmer
Spain - Walmer
Also
Schloss - Poland, Nottingham, Massachusetts & New Zealand.
Cohen - Birmingham

"Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov."