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Paulton and Cholera
« on: Saturday 02 June 07 09:51 BST (UK) »
Please can any one in the Paulton area help?
I have found several ancestors who died in two cholera out breaks in Paulton in 1832 and 1849.
I have seen an extract from Revd Skinner( Rector of Camerton)'s diary telling about cholera in Paulton which the transcriber has dated 1830. Does any one know where I can see this diary or can anyone confirm the date was indeed 1830 and not 1832.
I have also seen a blurred photograph of one of the memorials to cholera victims in the church yard of Holy Trinity which seems to have the date 1852. Am I misreading it does it read 1832
PLEASE can some one let me have a clear photograph or let me have the wording on the cholera memorials in the church yard? I believe there are two. The family names I am particularly interested in are AMOS, BULL and CARTER
Many thanks
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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:54 BST (UK) »
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PAULTON C.P. CHURCH STREET (south side) ST 65 NW 1/4 Cholera monument, in the churchyard and 15 metres south of Church of the Holy Trinity G.V. II Memorial, boundary and marker stones. Early/mid C19. Freestone, ashlar. A square enclosure marked by dressed stones, at east stands a 0.5 metre high plain pointed stone with text:

BOUNDARY/OF/CHOLERA/BURIAL/GROUND. At west stands a pediment topped, ashlar insertion in wall on which an haut relief urn surmounts a tablet with text:

 IN MEMORY OF
23 MEN, 23 WOMEN AND 26 CHILDREN
INTERRED WITHIN THIS ENCLOSURE
WHO FELL VICTIM TO THAT DREADFUL
SCOURGE, ASIATIC CHOLERA, WITH
WHICH IT PLEASED THE ALMIGHTY O
VISIT THIS PARISH FROM THE 28TH
SEPTEMBER TO THE 1OTH NOVEMBER
1832. WHEN, UNDER THE DIRECTING
ARM OF A BOUNTIFUL PROVIDENCE
BY THE SKILL AND ATTENTION OF THE
MEDICAL MEN, AND BY THE CHARITABLE
DONATIONS OF THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBOURHOOD, IT CEASED
"AND HE STOOD BETWEEN THE LIVING AND
THE DEAD AND THE PLAGUE WAS STAYED"

RESTORED, 1966.
http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/search/details.aspx?id=32856

I will see if I can get to the churchyard for you to see if I can find anything about Amos, Bull, Carter surnames.

Do you have any more information (e.g Christian names, dates...) that would assist me?
BALL - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
BELL - Suffolk
BENDALL - Somerset
DARTNELL - Kent
DOWNING - Yorks
DRIVER - Kent
GROVE - Staffs
LIVERMORE - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
LOVELL - Kent, Somerset
MINDHAM - Yorks
MOON - Berkshire, Cumbria, Kent, Lancs, Somerset, Staffs
MORELAND - Ireland, Liverpool, Essex
WALKER - Suffolk, Norfolk, Kent
WALTER - Kent

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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Bagpus thats very kind of you These are the people identified with a C in the burial register on our tree If you could possibly take a digital photograph of the memorials I would be extremely grateful
Our ancestors who died in Paulton during the 1832 outbreak of Asiatic cholera:
Eve BULL was buried October 10 1832 aged 5 years
Joyce BULL [2664] was buried 26 Oct 1832 aged 15 years
Jacob BULL [2884] was buried 2 Nov 1832 age 5 years
Dinah BULL nee WATTS [2878] (mother of Jacob) was buried Nov 10 1832 also of Cholera

Our ancestors who died in Paulton of Asiatic cholera 1849-50
Zachariah BULL [2829] was buried 30 Oct 1849 age 31 years
Ann CARTER nee JAMES [3426] was buried 31 Oct 1849 aged 27 years
Sarah Ann CARTER [3433] was buried 4 Nov 1849 age 5 years
John CARTER [3294] was buried 8 Nov 1849age 18 years
Jacob AMOS [1476] was buried 15 November 1849 aged 18 years 
Mary AMOS [1477] was buried 27 Nov 1849 aged 12 years
George CARTER [3130] was buried 30 Nov 1849 aged 4 years
Jane CARTER [3346] was buried 30 Nov 1849 aged 9 years
John BULL [3787] was buried 2 Dec 1849 aged 20years
Elija CARTER [3121] was buried 6 Dec 1849 aged 44 years
Elizabeth Ann CARTER [3434] was buried 9 Dec 1849 aged 4 years
Joyce BULL [2870] was buried 11 Dec 1849 aged 14 years sister of Joyce who died in the 1832 outbreak.
David CARTER [3198] was buried 22 Dec 1849 aged 28 years.
There were others of family names yet to be identified
William AMOS buried 21 November 1849 aged 3˝ years
Ann AMOS buried November 24 aged 4 years
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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 22:16 BST (UK) »
Oops I should have removed the [nos ] They are our own data reference I hope they don't confuse.
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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 July 07 16:52 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, although I searched every gravestone (it's not a big graveyard!) I did not find graves for any of those listed.  I'm not sure from what you've said whether you were expecting individual graves, or whether they might have mass graves for outbreaks of disease.  What leads me to think this is that I found a marker for the 'boundary of cholera'!  The bottom of this marker has worn but I think the last two words say 'burial ground'.

Many of the graves have also worn away in this manner.  I did find a few 'Carter' graves, but they were (from memory) 1880s so definitely not the ones listed above.

I know there is a large cemetary in Paulton, but I'm certain all the cholera burials will have taken place in the same place, i.e this church.

I will post two photos below.   The link to my Photobucket account, which has more pictures of the church/monument is below.  Please let me know if it's not public - although it should be.  :)

http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/

BALL - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
BELL - Suffolk
BENDALL - Somerset
DARTNELL - Kent
DOWNING - Yorks
DRIVER - Kent
GROVE - Staffs
LIVERMORE - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
LOVELL - Kent, Somerset
MINDHAM - Yorks
MOON - Berkshire, Cumbria, Kent, Lancs, Somerset, Staffs
MORELAND - Ireland, Liverpool, Essex
WALKER - Suffolk, Norfolk, Kent
WALTER - Kent

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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 July 07 17:53 BST (UK) »
Many thanks yes the link is working well your lovely clear photographs confirm the two out breaks as  per my lists The problem lies in the diary of Revd Skinner the Rector of Camerton His entry for October 3rd 1830 deals with an outbreak of Cholera in Paulton he mentions, "those who died are buried in a piece of ground without funeral ceremony” which fits the boundary stones but why are only 2 outbreaks mentioned when the Diary indicates there were 3 He does not say how many died in 1830. I can only assume it was a more contained incident probably of the native British Cholera while the two commemorated with the memorials were a more virulent strain "the Asiatic" Cholera
Many thanks for your kind help May I down load the photos from here for personal use?
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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 July 07 20:24 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your kind help May I down load the photos from here for personal use?
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Of course - feel free.   :)
BALL - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
BELL - Suffolk
BENDALL - Somerset
DARTNELL - Kent
DOWNING - Yorks
DRIVER - Kent
GROVE - Staffs
LIVERMORE - Kent (and a bit of Essex!)
LOVELL - Kent, Somerset
MINDHAM - Yorks
MOON - Berkshire, Cumbria, Kent, Lancs, Somerset, Staffs
MORELAND - Ireland, Liverpool, Essex
WALKER - Suffolk, Norfolk, Kent
WALTER - Kent

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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 July 15 00:43 BST (UK) »
Please can any one in the Paulton area help?
I have found several ancestors who died in two cholera out breaks in Paulton in 1832 and 1849.
I have seen an extract from Revd Skinner( Rector of Camerton)'s diary telling about cholera in Paulton which the transcriber has dated 1830. Does any one know where I can see this diary or can anyone confirm the date was indeed 1830 and not 1832.
I have also seen a blurred photograph of one of the memorials to cholera victims in the church yard of Holy Trinity which seems to have the date 1852. Am I misreading it does it read 1832
PLEASE can some one let me have a clear photograph or let me have the wording on the cholera memorials in the church yard? I believe there are two. The family names I am particularly interested in are AMOS, BULL and CARTER
Many thanks
Trees

Hello, I am hoping you are still at the other end of this dated post.  I was fascinated by the story of the Bull family being part of the Paulton cholera outbreak.  Dinah Bull (nee Watts) also falls in my tree. I am struggling figuring out who is who with George Bull (husband of Dinah) and was wondering if you had any insights into him.  Is he the son of Robert/Anne (as the names of his children suggest but that doens't jive with the 1841 census), or do we go with the George Bull born January 1796 (parents Steven and Honour) .  If you have solved this puzzle or have any documentation on the cholera outbreak, I would be very grateful!

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Re: Paulton and Cholera
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 July 15 16:35 BST (UK) »
Hi there I'm still here
We have gone with Stephen and Honour nee PEWTERS
I have George and Dinah having:
Mary1815,Ann 1818 George baptised 28 May 1820 Angel 1822-1830,Eleanor baptised 27 Feb 1825,Jacob1827-1832, Dinah baptised 10 Jan 1830, Robert 1831-1832
So yes he does have Ann and Robert and no Stephen or Honour.  Dinah died in 1832
On the 1841 census Piece: 939 Book: 18 Folio: 40 Page Number: 31
George 45 was with George 20 Ellen 15 and Dinah 10
with rounding George was born 1791-1796 which fits the baptism in Paulton
entry 62    George Son of Steven and Honour BULL   was baptized  November 6th 1785
Robert and Ann's George was baptised 16 Feb 1787 which is out side the age range Also there is a burial:
entry 149    10 Feb 1792   George   son of    Robert   Ann      BULL
which I think clinches that problem

Stephen was bapt 1 Feb 1761 the third of 4 known children of Stephen and Elizabeth BULL

My interest in the family is through George 1820 who married Elizabeth BULL also born 1820 daughter of Joseph Bull and Susannah CARTER these being my husbands 4x gt grandparents I can go back another 3 generations on her line if you should require their records

Hope this helps If I can help further let me know I have most of the baptisms some of the marriages and some deaths of the various children
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By the way look at my web site it is desperately in need of attention but you may find some interesting stuff there to help with your tree. Which of George and Dinah's children are you interested in?
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Also read the children a story from Story Time at the same web site.