1861/51/41 Census help please!

[csmalley]

I'm looking for more information about Alfred Vincent TURNER. Courtesy of another Rootschat member () I have the following 1871 census entry for him:

1871  RG10/249  f.68  p.52  St Pancras, London
41 Peckwater Street

Alfred Vincent TURNER  Head  38  Housepainter  Berks Windsor
Ann                               Wife  27                      No Knowledge
Edward James              Son    7  Scholar
Alfred Vincent               Son    5  Scholar
Emily                             Daur   3
William J                        Son   1             All children born Middlesex St Pancras

From the 1881 census, Ann's birthplace is Poplar. She is, by now, a widow - Alfred died in 1871 (although she has young children born after this time with the surname Turner  ).

I've had a look myself on the 1861 but can't find Alfred - my knowledge of London districts is very poor (I thought all my lot were from Kent!) so I'm hoping someone with a better eye than me can find him.

Many Thanks!
Clare

[Isobelruss]

1851
Thomas Turner 19 lodger  labourer b Tottenham Court Road
Alfred Turner 18 lodger b Windsor  jobbing groom
George Barrs 20 labourer b St Pancras
there are other families living at this address 9 Mansfield Place St Pancras
HO107 1498 fol 252 p 27

Thanks Sue had to go back 6 pages to find that address have corrected it to Mansfield now

Isobel

[suffolk*sue]

1841

HO 107/683/4  -  St. Pancras
Folio 33, Pages 14 and 15
Mansfield Place

Edward CARTER - 33 - gardener
Susanna  CARTER - 33
William TURNER - 12
Thomas TURNER - 10
Alfred TURNER - 8 - not born in county
Susanna TURNER - 7
Emily TURNER - 6 - nbic
Harriett TURNER - 4

[suffolk*sue]

Possible marriage

Edward CARTER
Susanna TURNER

1841
Mar qtr.
St. Martin in the Fields
Vol 1
Page 119

[suffolk*sue]

1851

CARTER

Susannah - 43 - widow - laundress - born Hillingdon
Edward - 8
Arthur - 7
Eliza - 4
Walter -  2
Alice - 1
Susannah TURNER - 16

all the rest born in St. Pancras


HO 107/1498 - St. Pancras
Folio 249
Page 21

[csmalley]

Poor Susannah. Didn't seem to have much luck with husbands!

Not sure how I go about identifying Alfred's father though I don't have a marriage for him yet, no telling that would identify him but it might be a place to start?

[Isobelruss]

Theres a Thomas Turner on IGI
Birth 10 June 1831 Christening 6 Nov 1831 St Luke Chelsea.parents William Turner and Susanna
might be worth looking into.

Also William Turner 22 Feb 1828 Christening 11 May 1828 St Andrew Holborn  parents William Turner and Susanna both are extracted records.Ages fit nicely with 41 census that Sue found
Another William Joseph Turner 18/6/1829 St Luke Chelsea same named parents.

Isobel

[Isobelruss]

possible marriage
Susannah Powl
William Turner 16/12/1826
Christ Church Greyfriars Newgate London

[csmalley]

Thanks for all of your posts William Turner looks like a definite possibility.

I'm fairly new to family history, so anything further back than the census fazes me a little at the moment