Completed - Many thanks - Any significance to only wearing one glove

[mmm45]

Hi Jo
The x usually means his medals would be impressed with that regiment on the rim or back of the Star
The Theatre of war  was the first place he would have served overseas.It was coded (4) if im correct was Africa so (4a) may be east Africa??

Having looked at the Great War Forum on the Royal Fusiliers bit it lists the 25th Batt Royal Fusiliers as landing at Mombassa May 1915 which ties in with the date on the MIC
As always theres a lot of guessing so i could be wrong

Ady

[JoJoBuggins]

Ady

Im very impressed,you were able to decipher all that, I wouldnt have had a clue with the (4A) going to get my atlas out now and have a look

I only received this photo yesterday and you have told me so much, many thank yous

Jo

[BettyofKent]

I think mack may be right. I've downloaded & enlarged the pic, & I'm sure I can see fingernails! Perhaps a post on the photo restoration board to ask one of clever people on there to take a look, The graphics programs they use will be much better at showing detail.

Betty

i could be wrong,but it looks like a bad shadow not a glove,if his service record has survived,roy will find it.
mack

[mmm45]

http://www.frontiersmenhistorian.info/


Jo the 25th Royal Fusiliers  were known as "Frontiersmen" with quite a history.

Theres a link above.
The 25th link is on the left.
Ady

[JoJoBuggins]

Ady

Thanks for that

This made me laugh
 
"The age limit was 25-48 years; but it was obvious that a few old-timers must have forgotten the year in which they were born..."

 fascinating stuff, you cant believe that some men deserted there normal unit just to join the 25th Fusiliers, bet it was fun at Waterloo Station with the police trying to catch them

Jo

[JoJoBuggins]

Ady

as promised MIC

Jo

[manmack]

i dont know if anyone has noticed,but charles has been written under the F,not before it,i honestly cant see anything on this card that fits to the charles in the picture,this mans card is for a private,charles is a full corporal,hes also wearing two overseas stripes which indicate that he went overseas in 1916,the bloke in the medal card went overseas in 1915,the card looks to me like it should be f,charles verity not charles,f verity,a soldier wouldnt show that he had lost a limb if he was having his picture taken,he would have hidden it,mack

[mmm45]

Manmack
A lot of its calculated guessing these are the reasons
1.The cap badge on the Phot is(in my opinion) AOC
2.The MIC is to a private however he could have held the rank of Temporary Cpl or Acting Cpl and then been reverted to Pte
3.He has 2 Overseas Chevrons so if he went Overseas in 1915 that would take him to 1917 and then for whatever reason he was rear based in UK he wouldnt qualify for any more.
4. C.F. were written first and the" harles" added after

I know MICs are sometimes lost and inaccurate so we possibly need a little bit more info to clinch it.

Ady

[JoJoBuggins]

Manmack, I had noticed that, but didnt think a great deal to it, but on the actual download form it does say Charles Frederick Verity, so if he isnt the Charles in the photo, then he probably is my other Charles Frederick, don't you think?

Why do brothers,name their sons the same, causes so much confusion

And to be honest I wouldnt know that a Corporal had two chevrons, all I can say is thank goodness for all you kind Rootschatters

My thoughts with regard to the hand sway from one idea one minute to another the next

Jo