Aird 's from Stranraer, Can anyone help ?

[woiiftm]

I'm trying to confirm details of a John Aird (died 1872)

According to census result, 1851 was living in Neptune St with wife Charlotte nee McCord (married 8/12/1845), sons William and Alexander, Daughter Mary.

I have an 1871 census showing John Ard with wife Charlotte and children Alexander, Archibald and Thomas, all of whose ages tally with 1861 census.

Death certificate shows parents as John Aird and Margaret Stein(Steven)!

I am unable to find marriage certificate for Charlotte. Any Ideas ?

Regards Gordon

[runningbear]

don't know if this is any help gordon but i had a wee look about and found this.

1841 census- st john street, stranraer
charlotte-15

1841 census-st john street, stranaer
alexander mccord- 48-joiner
and all the family

thomas mccord aird born 3/8/1856
jane agnes aird born 11/12/1858
david aird born 27/3/1861

all born stranraer

i wonder if you john was a joiner and that was the connection between the families?

Joe

[woiiftm]

Hello Joe,

Thanks for the response.
Would seem to be the McCord family right enough.
I've got a note of Thomas,Jane and a Davida ? could this be your David ?
or someone else entirely.
John in my records is referred to as a seaman or mariner, no mention of joiner as yet.
I'm trying to concentrate on John and think I have his parents, John Aird and
Margaret Steven, married 1807 at Newton on Ayr, it's the next line I'm having trouble with.

Cheers for the help

Gordon

[beenie]

Hi Gordon
I know it's a while since your post but found these in the WFP
AIRD, Mr - M8/12/1845 - At the Albion Hotel, here, on the 8th inst., by the Rev. Mr Charles, of the Free Church, Mr Aird, mate of the Albion steam-ship, to Miss Charlotte M'Cord, second daughter of Mr Alex. M'Cord, wright.
AIRD, Female - B30/8/1852 - At Neptune Street, here, on the 30th ult, the wife of Mr John Aird, mariner, of a daughter.

AIRD, Female - B27/3/1861 - Here, at Agnew Crescent, on the 27th inst., (wife) of Mr John Aird, mariner, of a daughter.
This will be your Davida, not David, it was my Grandma's name and I named my daughter after her.

Have you got the info from the 1851 census, it has John and Charlotte born in Ayr.
Let me know if there is anything more I can do
Regards
Beenie

[woiiftm]

Hello Beenie,

Many Thanks for your info.
Where did you get this ? What is the WFP ? Can I access ?

This is undoubtedly what I've been trying to find for a long time now.
Is this the marriage certificate or a public notification ?

I've got the 51 Census, which posed another as yet unverified issue for me.
It identifies son William, age14 and daughter Mary, age16.
As John and Charlotte married in 1845, this would indicate a previous marriage.

I have a marriage cert from ScotlandsPeople for a John Aird and a Mary Burnett
  19/6/1836  No/ 622/0170 0362 in Barony, however this date doesn't tie in with ages of children.
John's Parents appear to be John Aird and Margaret Steven, married 1807

I've spent recent time tracing Charlotte and children after John's death, when they then moved to Queensland in Australia.

My difficulties have been in finding a record of John and Charlottes wedding,
a record of John's first marriage, a record of John's death.

Hopefully you've managed to solve one of them for me.

Cheers

Gordon

[JAP]

Hi Gordon,

The WFP is the Wigtownshire Free Press and the extract which Beenie so brilliantly found for you can be seen at:

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~leighann/wfp/intro.html

The clue to why you have had trouble in finding Charlotte's marriage lies in the mention that they were married by a Free Church minister.

The following diagram gives an idea of the schisms in the Church of Scotland:

http://website.lineone.net/~davghalgh/churchhistory.html

Pre-1855 records on ScotlandsPeople are only those of the established Church of Scotland.  The IGI does include some records of other Presbyterian churches in Scotland - but not many.

Regards,

JAP

[JAP]

Just to add a note.

I see that a lot of work was done on this family at:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,236033

And there the suggestion was made that a good way to try to find the name of the mother of John AIRD's first wife would be to try to follow up on what happened to the children of his first marriage - Margaret AIRD b ca 1835 and William AIRD b ca 1837.

Gordon, have you followed up on this?  They were in the 1851 census so one can hope that they survived until after the start of Statutory Registration in Scotland (1855).  If you can find marriage or death certificates for either or both, you should get the name and maiden surname of their mother ...

Regards,

JAP
PS: Gordon, I note that Alexander MCCORD & Margaret HASTWELL also had a daughter Jean in 1822 in Stanraer - but the surname is recorded in the IGI as MCCOARD (which the IGI doesn't link with MCCORD).

[beenie]

Hi Gordon,
Glad I can be of some help, the WFP is the Wigtownshire free press, google the Wigtownshire Pages, it is a great site, on the left hand column there is a list click on BMD's WFP it is already in alphabetical order so easy to do, click on A and scroll down the page under births and it has two of the Aird girls, have a good look around as it has photos of Stranraer, it is a lovely place, went there last year, will check to see if I can find anything else for you will let you know.
Regards
Jeanne

[woiiftm]

Beenie and JAP,

Hello and thanks to you both for the links and explanations as to the lack of records from Free Church

Now have John's death cert which as mentioned elsewhere makes no mention of first wife.

Don't know who daughter born 1852 is yet, hope to track her later tonight.
Havn't been able to track any marriage or death certificates for William and
Mary yet, too many possibilities / unable to refine search enough / or no hits.

This side of family has had me hooked for some time now, it may be a case of
having reached the end........we'll see

Thanks Again to you both

Gordon