Hayes of Ballymacreely, Killinchy and Dunmurry

[Sunnyhill]

Mary Jane Skelly m James Hayes 28 Dec 1855 in Magheradrool but can't find this marriage on NI Direct.

Could this be the marriage with James as Hay not Hayes
James Hay 1855
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izq/
Mary Jane Skelly 1855
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izr/

For some reason the links came out very long.
Both Quarter 1
Vol 4
Page 691

That's the one thanks - and thank you  dathai

[Sunnyhill]

This is my family - baptised in Killinchy Presbyterian Church

Elinor of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 12 Feb, 1812
Mary of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 28 Aug, 1822
Margaret Ann of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 24 Dec 1824
James Gourley of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 23 Mar 1827
David Lowry of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 02 Apr 1829
Archibald of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 19 Jul 1831
Robert of Archibald Hayes, Jun, Ballymacreelly baptised 02 Oct 1833.

I also found a record for a Samuel Gourley Hayes, father Archibald, baptised 23 Mar 1827  in Killinchy Presbyterian


In 1835 there was a split in Killinchy Presbyterian Church which resulted in a number of the Congregation leaving and forming Ravara.  There is a list or 'Census' of members of the new Church which was dated 1841.  It included Archibald Hayes plus James, Elinor, Elizabeth, Mary, Jean, Margaret, Archibald, David, & James, living in the townland of Ballymacreelly.

[Kiltaglassan]

Party 1 Name   JAMES HAY
Party 2 Name   MARY SKELLY
Date of Event   28 December 1855
SR District/Reg Area   Downpatrick
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09488/5438714.pdf

Fathers Archibald Hay, farmer and David Skelly, farmer.
James Hay residing at Ballyagherty
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/saintfield/ballyagherty/
Mary Jane Skelly residing at Creevyargon
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/kilmore/creevyargon/

KG

[Sunnyhill]

Thank you Have to visit these places if and when I get back there.

Party 1 Name   JAMES HAY
Party 2 Name   MARY SKELLY
Date of Event   28 December 1855
SR District/Reg Area   Downpatrick
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09488/5438714.pdf

Fathers Archibald Hay, farmer and David Skelly, farmer.
James Hay residing at Ballyagherty
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/saintfield/ballyagherty/
Mary Jane Skelly residing at Creevyargon
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/kilmore/creevyargon/

KG

[Kiltaglassan]

Just to add: 

It included Archibald Hayes plus James, Elinor, Elizabeth, Mary, Jean, Margaret, Archibald, David, & James, living in the townland of Ballymacreelly.

Ballymacreelly townland
https://www.townlands.ie/down/dufferin/killinchy/ballymacreelly/

KG

[Kiwi007]

I have found a  mention on Ros Davies site that  James HOGG died 1816 aged 62y ( b abt 1854) and his wife Susannah HAY died 1808 aged 46y ( b abt 1762) both of Ballymacreely, and buried Killinchy First Presbyterian Church.
I believe these are my ancestors who may have had a son Jacob HOGG and a son, James HOGG. If I am on the right track, Jacob HOGG was a baker in Ballynahinch. William BARR of Ballynahinch left 40 quid to Jacob's daughter ' Sally' in his 1809 Will. I found 2 daughters for sure:
 Sarah, b abt 1807 who married John HARPER ( I have 2 DNA matches to this line) ( she died New Cumnock, Ayrshire, have death cert which states Jacobs wife was Jane McCALLOW/McCALLA ), and
 Eleanor HOGG who married, first, James NOUGHER/NOGHER/NOCHER who was murdered in 1850. Eleanor remarried James JOHNSTON 1856.  I have found some children for her, and her Will
There may also have been a daughter, Deborah HOGG b abt 1803 who married William HARPER. She died 1896 in Clintnagooland. I have found a number of children for her.
There is probably a daughter Susannah HOGG as well as that name was a constant in many descendants family lines including my GGrandmother born in England 1856.
 Another Deborah HOGG born about 1820 married Hugh McATEER ( I have many dna matches to this line on Chromosome 18). This Deborah may be the daughter of James HOGG, a weaver, possibly of Long Stone ( 1819 Directory).
I also have dna matches on chromosome 18 for Robert LENNOX and his wife who is shown as Anne HARE, born abt 1765 in Trees online, however I am wondering if the name might be HAY/HAYE/HAYES etc.
I would love to find more details on any of these folk. The LDS offices are closed due to covid, so I can't order any films.
Any help is much appreciated.
Cheers
Jo ( Australia)

[Kiltaglassan]

There may also have been a daughter, Deborah HOGG b abt 1803 who married William HARPER. She died 1896 in Clintnagooland. I have found a number of children for her.

Deborah Harper, aged 93, died on 10th October 1896 at Clintnagooland. Her son, William Thomas was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05886/4669639.pdf

William Thomas with his family in 1901 census.
Residents of a house 10 in Clontonagullion (Dromara, Down)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Dromara/Clontonagullion/1237979/

Clontanagullion townland (probably Clintnagooland).
https://www.townlands.ie/down/kinelarty/magherahamlet/clontanagullion/

KG

[Kiltaglassan]

Eleanor remarried James JOHNSTON 1856.

Party 1 Name   JAMES JOHNSTON
Party 2 Name   ELLEANOR NOGHER
Date of Event   13 September 1856
SR District/Reg Area   Downpatrick

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1856/09508/5446217.pdf

KG

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Sunnyhill with you living in Dunmurry and no doubt others much further afield, have you reached the point of illustrating your family history, if so have you seen the 1830ish and 1860 OS 6inch to the mile maps for Ballymacreelly townland,  the later possibly showing the boundaries of the homesteads etc ?
and the satellite or street view, obtainable through http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/   map references or google maps
and then where the spouse or partner lived etc
Good luck onwards and may you keep getting help from others