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PHIMISTER
« on: Sunday 01 July 07 12:40 BST (UK) »
Is anyone on this list researching PHIMISTER in Caithness?
I may have some sort of connection depending on verification of some related details. Thought it might be worth getting organised in case.

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James.
Ayrshire: Craig, Orr.

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 August 07 12:16 BST (UK) »
Hi James,
There are Phimisters in my family tree although I don't know much about them.   :(
I have Isabella Phimister, can't find any date of birth although she was 28 in the 1851 cenusus.  She married John McKenzie (quarryman) in Broadhaven (?) on 31st Jan, 1840.  Her father (I am assuming) was George Phimister, farmer. He is mentioned in the marriage entry as the witnesss "for the woman".  I haven't been able to find any birth or death details for Isabella.  I do know she had a son George Phimister McKenzie born around 1851 in Wick.

It's all a bit vague I know!
Thanks  :)
Bec
Australia
Cormack,Doull,Geddes,Green,Phimister,Sinclair,Sutherland-Caithness
Cornelius-Burma
Mackenzie/McKenzie-Ross & Cromarty, Caithness, Edinburgh, Burma
Skinner-Kent, Madras
Meakin,Whittaker-Staffordshire
Flood-Kildare
Brodie-Australia, Dundee
Tickle-Birmingham
Torrens-Derry

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 August 07 13:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Bec,

Thanks for your reply.

For starters, I have:

Marjory Phimister (schoolteacher) married a James Mitchell b around 1846.

James was brother to Charles Mitchell, fishcurer, Fraserburgh b. 1826 married to Janet Rettie.

Their daughter Mary Ann Mitchell married Peter Slessor.

There's loads of stuff going sideways, but so far, I've not gone far purely with Phimister.

James.
Ayrshire: Craig, Orr.

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 August 07 07:56 BST (UK) »
Hi James,
I'm having a lot of trouble finding my Phimisters!  I can find Isabella in the 1851 census without any trouble but not in the 1841 or any subsequent to 1851..it's very odd.  Like the family just disappears.   :(

Bec
Cormack,Doull,Geddes,Green,Phimister,Sinclair,Sutherland-Caithness
Cornelius-Burma
Mackenzie/McKenzie-Ross & Cromarty, Caithness, Edinburgh, Burma
Skinner-Kent, Madras
Meakin,Whittaker-Staffordshire
Flood-Kildare
Brodie-Australia, Dundee
Tickle-Birmingham
Torrens-Derry


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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 August 07 08:12 BST (UK) »
Hi there Bec,

It really is inconsiderate of these ancestors to be so elusive, right?
Did the name itself find its way to Oz or just the genes?

This isn't a name I'd had any contact with until recently.  I believe there are still Phimisters in Caithness (Wick) but haven't uprooted them as yet.

For me, it is a connecting name rather than a main research one.  That said, I don't like leaving a job half done.

James.
Ayrshire: Craig, Orr.

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 August 07 08:20 BST (UK) »
Have I the right Isabella?

Father = George Phimister b: 1790 in Wick c: 28 Apr 1790 in Wick Caithness

Mother = Alexanderina Wares b: 1790 in Wick Caithness

Marriage = 1 John McKenzie b: 1804 in Gairloch, Ross & Cromarty
Married: 31 Jan 1840 in Wick Caithness
Children
 John McKenzie b: 1842 in Wick Caithness
 Alexanderina McKenzie b: 1846 in Wick Caithness
 Margaret McKenzie b: 1848 in Wick Caithness
 George McKenzie b: 1850 in Wick Caithness
 James McKenzie b: 1859 in Wick Caithness

There's another poster here on rootschat doing Wares btw.
Ayrshire: Craig, Orr.

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 August 07 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi James,
Thanks for the msg...I had joined the Caithness.org forum but haven't had time to look or post  :(

It certainly looks like the right Isabella although I have no idea about her parents...I haven't found death details or any other details other than her marriage to John Mckenzie and the 1851 census.   ???
I can't figure out why she disappears when I'm only changing the census year and her age.  Any tips??

The McKenzie line is actually the "main" line. My Grandmother was a Mackenzie/Mckenzie and George (born 1850 in Wick) was her grandfather. So I don't think the Phimisters made it out here through that line!

Bec
Cormack,Doull,Geddes,Green,Phimister,Sinclair,Sutherland-Caithness
Cornelius-Burma
Mackenzie/McKenzie-Ross & Cromarty, Caithness, Edinburgh, Burma
Skinner-Kent, Madras
Meakin,Whittaker-Staffordshire
Flood-Kildare
Brodie-Australia, Dundee
Tickle-Birmingham
Torrens-Derry

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 August 07 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Bec,

No clues as yet, but a name change - even spelling variant -might make the difference.

Re Phimisters generally - http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=30201
follow thread till reference to FHS - its £10 membership lol.

Why not post your message on my forum (pm me for details) and it might be spotted.

Meantime, will keep on 'digging'.

James.
Ayrshire: Craig, Orr.

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Re: PHIMISTER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 10:43 BST (UK) »
1861 Hillhead Wick Ref 043  ED 2 Pg 41.212
John McKenzie Head  M M 46 Labourer
Isabella Wife M F 42
George  Son O M 10
Isabella Daur O F 8
James Son O M 1m
BAILEY    (HAM/Portsmouth Portsea/1800s);
CORMACK    (CAI/Watten Wick/fam of Magnus C & Jean Taylor m 1739);
CORMACK    (DUR/Sunderland area 1800s/orig from CAI, SCT, 1700s);
JOHNSTON    (CAI/../All);
JOHNSTON    (ARL/Kirn Dunoon/circa 1800 - onwards);
JOHNSTON    (ELN/Prestonpans Tranent/fam of William Johnston Janet Forman);
MCDOUGAL     (ARL/MULL/pre1800 Neil McDougall Effy McPhail);
MCDOUGALL    (INV/Laggan/pre 1800 in Mull Argyll then INV etc);
MORE    (CAI/Wick Sarclet Thurso Orkney/1600