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COMPLETED with thanks St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« on: Sunday 22 July 07 01:15 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find a marriage for my 3x great grandparents, William Caddy born 1789-1791 and Honor born 1785-1788. The marriage would have taken place circa 1815-1817 in St Breock Cornwall.

Honor's maiden name is transcribed as Growden (Grouden) on her daughter's death certificate (informant is her daughter in law, so may be incorrect).

One of their children and grandchildren (a female) have been given the middle name 'Oliver' which may be significant.

I can't find a marriage for William and Honor on IGI. I have found them in the censuses.

Daisy May has found the births/baptisms of William and Honor Caddys' children in St Breock between 1817-1832.

Margaret :)
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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts

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Re: St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 July 07 01:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Margaret,

William CADDY = Honour OLIVER 25 May 1817 St Breock

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 July 07 01:38 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Kris :D, that was quick, I'm impressed 8)

It certainly looks like William and Honors' marriage record. I'm so pleased that the family left a clue in the naming pattern, but I do wonder though, why my 2x great grandmother's daughter in law gave Honor's maiden name as Growden/Grouden on her death certificate?

Thanks again Kris,

Margaret :)

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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts

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Re: St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 July 07 01:47 BST (UK) »
Here is Honour's baptism also

Honour OLIVER was baptised 29 June 1788 St Breock - Parents John and Honour.

This marriage is not listed in St Breock

Honour OLIVER was buried St Breock 13 May 1829 aged 75 years

John is not listed 1813-1837

Cheers Kris  :D

Yes Margaret the name certainly has nothing in common with the name Oliver that is for sure  :-\
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COMPLETED with thanks Re: St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 July 07 03:01 BST (UK) »
Thankyou once again Kris for your time spent looking up these records, I do appreciate it :D

How wonderful to now have the names of Honour's parents and her mother's burial record.

I was wondering whether Honour Oliver's mother's maiden name could be Growden? which would justify the error on the death certificate.

Kind regards,

Margaret :)

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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts

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Re: St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 July 07 08:15 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Kris :D, that was quick, I'm impressed 8)

It certainly looks like William and Honors' marriage record. I'm so pleased that the family left a clue in the naming pattern, but I do wonder though, why my 2x great grandmother's daughter in law gave Honor's maiden name as Growden/Grouden on her death certificate?

Just an update, the mystery has been solved:

Honor Oliver was my 2x great grandmother's mother and Grace Growden her father's mother.

Grace Growden married Richard Caddy 24 July 1781 at St. Breock.

Now all I have to do is find the correct birth/baptism for Grace c1750-1760 in Withiel/St Breock and hopefully link her to the correct family.

Margaret :)
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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts

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Re: COMPLETED with thanks St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 July 07 08:36 BST (UK) »
Aha That is great news Margaret.  ;D

Marriage States Richard CADDY of Withiel = Grace GROWDEN 24 July 1781 St Breock so presume St Breock was her parish at the time of marriage.

I don't see a baptism but I notice there is a

John BEST = Honour GROWDEN 19 Nov 1787 St Breock

no mention of either being from outside the parish but I do find

Honour GROWDEN baptised 30 Aug 1767 Withiel Parents Joseph and Grace

Siblings all Withiel (IGI)

William 15 May 1755
Jenefer 9 Jan 1763
Joseph 29 Aug 1773

No mention of Grace but looks likely parentage

Joseph GROWDEN of St Breock = Grace JEFFERY 3 Feb 1751 Withiel  ;)

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: COMPLETED with thanks St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 July 07 08:39 BST (UK) »
Aha,

Checked the batch number and found her

Grace GRONDEN 10 June 1759 Withiel - Parents Joseph and Grace  ;D

Cheers Kris  :D

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Re: COMPLETED with thanks St. Columb Major Parish Records CADDY
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 July 07 03:16 BST (UK) »
Kris, this is wonderful news,  :D

Now, this presents another mystery in that I have received information from another source that there is another Grace Growden born c 1751, parents: Elisabeth Unknown and Laurence Growden (brother to Joseph Growden who married Grace Jeffery). Laurence and Joseph's parents were Laurence Grouden and Elizabeth Vanson. (see below).


Children of LAURENCE GROUDEN and ELIZABETH VANSON are:

1. LAURENCE GROUDEN, b. 1721, Christening: 22 May 1721, Withiel. He married Elisabeth ? in c1751-1752
2. MATHEW GROWDEN, b. 1723, St Breock.
3. ELIZABETH GROWDEN, b. 1730, St Breock.
Christening: 15 Apr 1730, Withiel(of St Breock)
4.  JOSEPH GROWDEN, Christening: 30 Mar 1727, Withiel (of St Breock) He married Grace Jeffery

Generation No. 2

Children of LAURENCE GROUDEN and ELISABETH ? are:

1. GRACE GROWDEN, b. 1751.
2. HONOR GROWDEN, b. 1753, St Breock.
Christening: 18 Sep 1753, St Breock
3. JINIFER GROWDEN, b. 1753, St Breock.
Christening: 18 Sep 1753, St Breock
4.  PRUDENCE GROWDEN, b. 1760, Withiel.
Christening: 10 Aug 1760, Withiel


 I found a Grace Caddy age 90, living with Mary Caddy age 55 (? her daughter) in Egloshayle Cornwall, (1841 census),which would indicate that Grace was born c1751,  Richard Caddy and Grace Growden had a daughter, Mary baptized 17 Oct 1784 Withiel St Breock Cornwall England, so I am fairly certain that this is my Grace, but I wouldn't rely on census information especially in 1841, to be correct regarding date of birth. 

There is only one death that I can find for Grace Caddy around this time (enumerated as CADY on the GRO records) who died in the March quarter of 1843. I have ordered this death certificate -  which at least will hopefully give me her correct age.

Thanyou again Kris

Regards,

Margaret :)
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ARCHIBALD/ADAMS/BROWN/GORDON/WILSON/Midlothian
CADDY/COPPIN/DENITHORNE/GEDYE/GIDDEY/GROWDEN/THOMAS/Cornwall
CAREY,CARRÉ Huguenot/France/Kent/NZ/NSW
CARMICHAEL/GRAHAM/CRAMB/STEWART/Perth
CLOUGH/Lancs/Yorks/NSW
CORNWELL/Kent/NSW 
EATON/Lon/NSW    
MALYON/Mdx  
MATTHEWS/Lon/Sry/Oxf/Glouc/NSW
McLEOD/THOMSON/E Lothian
QUINN/Kilkenny
TUCK/HART/Mdx/Esx
VICCARS/ Lond/Northamps/Hunts