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« on: Sunday 05 August 07 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi, All,

I have a Thomas Hay, born 1821 in Kirkudbright, living in 1881 at 10 Moss View, Poulton village, Poulton cum Seacombe, listed as a jobbing gardener, and an Elizabeth Huntington (nee Hay), born 1843 in Scotland, living in 1881 at 13 Moss View, Poulton village, Poulton cum Seacombe.  Can anyone tell me, please, if they were brother and sister.
Regards,
Annie.
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Re: Hay
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 August 07 23:14 BST (UK) »
It looks like Elizabeth was Thomas' neice

1881 Thomas/Annie have neice Annie Huntington age 16 and nephew William Huntington age 10 with them

1871 Annie Huntington age 6 is described as granddaughter
1871
Brick Cottages
Poulton Rd
(Mosslands)
Wallasey
Thomas hay Head 49 farmer Scotland
Annie Hay wife 46 Wallasey Cheshire
Annie Huntingdon Granddaughter 6 Wallasey
Margaret preston 17 General Servant Wallasey
RG10 3753 31 53

1861
Poulton Rd
Wallasey
Thomas hay head 40 Market Gardener Scotland
Ann wife 36 Seacombe Cheshire
Elizabeth Hay Neice 20 Scotland
Edward bennet Servant 16 Ag lab Seacombe
RG9 2648 97 26

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Re: Hay
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 August 07 23:32 BST (UK) »
1851 Thomas and Ann had no children with them

1851
Wallasey
Thomas hay Head Victualler Scotland
Ann 30 Poulton cum Seacombe
Fanny Potter House servant Poulton cum Seacombe
HO107 2174 471 4

do you have Elizabeth Huntingdon in 1871?

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Re: Hay
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 August 07 21:22 BST (UK) »
Hi, Suz,

Thanks for that.
I did wonder if Thomas Hay was Elizabeth's father. he is too old to be her brother.  I never thought of him as her uncle.

In 1871 I have Elizabeth in Wallasey.  I can't see the address.

Thomas Huntingdon  26 Farm labourer   Wallasey
Elizabeth                   31                          Dumfries Scotland
Thomas Son                3                          Poulton cum Seacombe
Alexander Son             2                         Poulton cum Seacombe

In 1881 there is no mention of Alexander.

Their name has changed at times from Huntingdon to Huntington.
 
They married in Birkenhead in 1865, according to Cheshire BMD, as Huntington.

Regards, and thanks again.
Annie.

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Re: Hay
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 August 07 21:38 BST (UK) »
Maybe this is why???
Deaths
Mar qtr 1874
Birkenhead district
Alexander Huntington
age 4
8a 354

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Re: Hay
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 August 07 21:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Suz.
I hope you don't mind me bothering you with this, but in the 1901 census I have

George Steen Head 35 Gas stoker  Birkenhead
Annie (nee Huntington)  Wife 35 Wallasey
Isabella Daug 12 Wallasey
Anne daug 10 ""
Georgina daug "" ""
George Thom son 6 "" ""
Bessie daug 4 "" ""
Charles william son 2 "" ""
John Steen Brother 19 Unmarried ag/lab Liscard
Thomas Steen Brother 19 Unmarried Labourer oil mill Birkenhead
Charles Steen Bro/in/law 21 marr Liscard
Agnes Steen (nee Huntingdon) sis/in/law marr 20 Wallasey

I know who the Steens are.  Charles, 21 was actually the brother of George, Head, but I can find nothing on John and Thomas aged 19. 
Any ideas?
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Re: Hay
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 August 07 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie
I'll have a look in previous census -see what I can come up with

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Re: Hay
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 August 07 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Looks like Thomas age a little bit out on 1901

1891
5 St Albans terrace
Liscard
Charles Steen head 48 Bricklayers lab Birkenhead
Elizabeth wife 44 Seacombe
William son 21 Bricklayers lab Seacombe
Ralph son 16 Bricklaers lab Seacombe
Charles 10 Seacombe
John son 8 Seacombe
Thomas son 5 Seacombe
Robert son 2 Liscard
RG12 2895 35 22

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Re: Hay
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi, Suz,
Thank you so much.  You have been a great help.
Best regards,
Annie
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