USA births 1867,69,78

[suffolk*sue]

Basil had two children by his first wife.
James born 1847 and the other researchers g.grandfather.
Eliza born about 1843.

As far as I know my g.grandma Sarah was the only child from his second union.

Apparently Basil married Catherine Geraghty in 1837, when he was about 37yrs old, which means he was getting on a bit for a first marriage. Its perfectly possible, I suppose that he could have been married previous to that and the Edwin with him in 1841, is a child of said marriage.
Absolutely no idea

We have explored the Cordner connection a little.

[J.J.]

Check the other posting! (re: name James) J.J.

( If you check, there may have also been a brother Edwin to Basil...so I suppose could have been a nephew...but you have much to prove as well... ,
fun, huh?)

[suffolk*sue]

Well my other source, and she has sent me loads of wonderful information, told me that Basil had two brothers, William about a year younger and George about six years younger. It seems William didn't have any children and George had about four, but none were called Edwin.
Edwin must be a rellie of some sort.
 

[philipsearching]

IGI has a marriage for Edwin Moore SANDYS, son of Robert, to Fanny BOND 30 Apr 1847 St Anne, Dublin - I don't know if he fits in this line.


This family are a wandering lot.
Edwin was born and married in Cloyne, Co Cork.
Son Basil was baptised in Rathkeale, Co Limerick.
Basil's daughter Eliza(beth) married inj Aghadee, Co Down.
Elizabeth's children were born in England, Ireland, Canada and USA, she later returned to England.

No wonder it's difficult to track them down!


Suffolk*Sue - it's a small world to be sure!  Would it be stretching coincidence unbeleivably far to ask if your Herbert RICHARDSON had a relative called Archibald, a tea planter born in Yorkshire around 1880-1910?

[suffolk*sue]

As far as I know, my Herbert hadn't got any relatives called Archibald. I have traced the Richardson line back to a Charles, born about 1800 in Hertfordshire.

[J.J.]

well these 2 deaths might be Sr. and Jr. or Basil's son's
June Q. 1852
Sandys Edwin  St Pancras  vol 1b    page 85   
Dec Q. 1863
SANDYS  Edwin    Marylebone vol 1a   page 33_

[philipsearching]

I now have the death certificate for Elizabeth Cordner 8 Dec 1909 Barnes, Surrey.  Her occupation is given as "widow of William Cordner, president of an American insurance co." Informant was R Scott, son in law. I can't find a marriage to match on FreeBMD but as the family travelled around, the marriage could have taken place anywhere.

I did find a marriage for an Edwin Sandys Cordner in Camberwell in 1898.
Alice Cordner married William Henry James in Lambeth in 1888.
I will hoard my pennies and send off for the certificates to see if they add anything new.

There are now several trails to pursue for the descendants of William Cordner and Elizabeth Sandys, but I have not made any new progress on their forebears.

As ever, many thanks to all who have helped me in this search.
Philip

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1901

TREWARTHA-JAMES

William H. - 39 - mining and metalurgised engineer - born Redruth
Alice S. - 32 - born Montreal
Derrie V. - 11 - born Brixton
Doris V - 7 - born Mexico (British Subject)

plus servants



RG13/125 - Hampstead
Folio 13, Page 17

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Birth

Derric William V T JAMES
1889
Jun qtr
Lambeth
Vol 1d
Page 523