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Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« on: Friday 10 August 07 20:18 BST (UK) »
Can someone help please...I have Frederick Hall born 1842c (British Subject)France.He married Edner Litchfield in Nottingham 1863.Would this mean his father ??? was in the army? if so where do I find his Birth Certificate.
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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 August 07 20:57 BST (UK) »
Have you got the census returns for this family.On 1851 they are in Nottingham and Thomas ,Fredericks father is a lace maker

Thomas Hall 33 lace maker b Nottingham
Harriet 33 wife lace maker b ditto
Ellen 13 dau lace clipper b Sneinton Notts
Frederick 10 son scholar b France British subject
Ann 7 dau scholar b France British subject
Jane 5 dau b Nottingham
Harriet 2 dau b Nottingham
Colwick Street Sneinton Notts
HO107 2130 fol 168 p 27
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 August 07 21:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Isobel,
Thankyou no I hadn't got the census,thats just the sort of info I was looking for.I presume his father was in the army in France at his birth.
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Janice

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 August 07 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I wouldn`t assume that Thomas was in the Army.  At the back of my mind I am sure that some Nottingham Lace Manufacturers set up business in the early 19c in Calais, France (and probaby other places too).  Also Nottingham Lace makers went out there to work.

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 August 07 22:33 BST (UK) »
Indeed ....just prior to the French Revolution of 1848 there were several thousand English living and working in the Calais lace industry, many of them from Notts. A quick google should tell you their story!
Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett
Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray
Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood
Derbyshire: Starbrook
Somerset: Willmott, Elliott
Cork:Driscoll, Murphy
London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman
London Kent:Cheesman
Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 August 07 22:35 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Interesting info,where would I find Fredericks birth certificate ??

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Janice

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 August 07 22:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

You learn something new every day,have just taken a look on Google never knew about Nottingham workers going over to Calais with the lace.I was barking up the wrong tree with the army.
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Janice.

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 21:00 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestor in the lace trade who was apparently from Lyon (or is it Lyons?), France.  This was another centre of the lace industry with connections to Nottingham.  Not sure whether he was originally from Lyon or perhaps the family moved there from Nottingham.

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Re: Frederick Hall 1842 Born in France!!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 March 21 15:25 GMT (UK) »
This is one of my great grandfathers, I've also been researching him and trying to work out why they were in France. This thread has been so helpful!
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