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Offline elspcam

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help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« on: Tuesday 14 August 07 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi trying to find info on my Gran's 2 brothers
Parents are James keddie and Elspeth Alcorn
James Keddie:
Born:      26th November 1871in Mertoun, County of Berwick Scotland
Census: 1881 Kamis Farm Cottage, Minto,Roxburgh, Scotland, age 9yrs
Census: 1891Galashiels, Burgh of Galashiels, Age 19, A Lorryman
Census: 1901 Ancrum Ancrum house, North lodge,  age 29, a Gamekeepers assistant
John Keddie
Born:       12th April 1883, Kaims, Parish of Minto Roxburgh, Scotland
Census:  1891 Galashiels, Burgh of Galashiels, age 7yrs a Scholar
census :  1901 Roxburgh New Town, age 17, groom and gardener on farm

The above is posted on the roxburgh boardwith a photograph of the boys
but now I wish to establish if the:
James Keddie  Buried in Highwood Cemetery in the town of High River Alberta Canada  1870-1961
and
John Keddie buried in the same cemetery 1883-1922
are indeed mine!
I have them on the passenger list of the Lake Champlain Ship, 8th may 1906 Liverpool to Quebec.
and also, I think, on a1906 census, Alberta district, 27, which I believe is in  the High river area
What I need is to, hopfully, tie in the above, with their parents
Anyhelp will be gratefully received
regards elspcam

Munro/Taylor/Prain in Monzie Tirchardie Perthshire Scotland
Cameron/Dewar/ of Camghouran near Kinloch  Rannoch, Perthshire Scotland
Keddie/Andison/Hutson in Melrose Selkirk Roxburghshire Scotland
Scott/Crerar/Greenhill/Watson/Ogilvie in Kirriemuir Angus Scotland

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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 03:34 BST (UK) »
Hi elspcam

I have found this in 1911 Census:

McLeod, Alberta, Canada -  District 14, pg 2
Head: John KEDDY 29, b Apr 1882, Scotland, Year of Immigration: 1902
Brother: James KEDDY 35, b Nov'br 1875, Year of Immigration : 1904 or 1902?
They are both employed as Ranch Hands

so close!

I have looked at the original but You can view a transcript of it here:
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 04:43 BST (UK) »
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 05:12 BST (UK) »
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 06:03 BST (UK) »
Books

Our Roots
(search either using the name Keddie, or in subject under Alberta. The are a few books where Keddie is mentioned)

http://www.ourroots.ca/e/


Cemetery

You could ask the Town of High River where to find information on James and John Keddie who are buried at the cemetery.  (There is also a Jessie Keddie) Here is a link to the funeral home that has contact numbers.

http://www.snodgrassfuneralhomes.com/resources.htm

Telphone Directory

You could also check the directory for people by the name of Keddie living in Alberta. (there are 34 listings)

Canada 411
http://www.canada411.ca/

Community of High River, Alberta
http://www.highriver.ca/



Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 October 07 03:27 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,249336.0.html
Here is the other posting...with a great photograph! J.J.
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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 October 07 08:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: AMBLY on Wednesday 15 August 07 03:34 BST (UK)
I have found this in 1911 Census:
McLeod, Alberta, Canada -  District 14, pg 2
Head: John KEDDY 29, b Apr 1882, Scotland, Year of Immigration: 1902
Brother: James KEDDY 35, b Nov'br 1875, Year of Immigration : 1904 or 1902?
They are both employed as Ranch Hands
I have looked at the original but You can view a transcript of it here:
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
From the transcribed page you can click on 'split view' to see scanned copy of original which comtains more information than transcribed page.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 October 07 20:31 BST (UK) »
You might want to see if this is any of your Keddie family in this local histories book....Link to Lookups site page
http://www.rootsweb.com/~abarchiv/fairview/pubwatln.txt


also list of history books, a few with High River/Highwood content
http://users.rootsweb.com/~canab/lhb/lhbbooktitlesh.html

this is in foothills county /  river area
 
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in 1906 they are working at Angus Cambell's ranch , and in the
section 25   township 15  range  29  west of 2nd meridian and although it says both immigrated 1906 on this census...I wonder if perhaps someone else gave the census answers and was pulling information out of a hat  ::)

In 1911 they were at   17(or 7?)  - 11 - 2 (or3) - w5

John isn't in the ww1 signups....Nor does there seem to be a record of them getting land grants...pre-1930 so were they perhaps always ranch hands rather than owners?
http://abgensoc.ca/homestead/search.php

Have you found out any more since original posting ?
Wish we could help...

J.J.
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Re: help required!" Are you Gran's brothers"?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 November 07 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Though I would give you an update. ;)
I have just received info from a researcher in Alberta Gen Society.
James keddie lived to be 91 year but never married.
John married Alice Jessie ??????? between 1911/1916 I think.
They had 2 daughters
Elsie and Madge Elizabeth
Elsie married a Donald Grant and was a school teacher in Edmonton 1950-1972 died 1994. They had 1 daughter A Ryder and 3 grandchildren (Galati) and 2 great grandchildren  Madge Elizabeth married Henry Edward Jones They had 1son and 1 daughter and  Elizabeth died 1935.
Thanks for your support and help.
still digesting this info and with surnames grant and Jones it could be another uphill struggle  ;D :D :)

Munro/Taylor/Prain in Monzie Tirchardie Perthshire Scotland
Cameron/Dewar/ of Camghouran near Kinloch  Rannoch, Perthshire Scotland
Keddie/Andison/Hutson in Melrose Selkirk Roxburghshire Scotland
Scott/Crerar/Greenhill/Watson/Ogilvie in Kirriemuir Angus Scotland
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