"A Nation within a Nation" The Lucas Clan in AustraliaCOMPLETED

[tropicalj]

Hello  all

I  have in my possession  at  the moment on  loan  a copy of
"A Nation  within a Nation"  The Lucas Clan in Australia by Peter McKay  second edition June 2004. (1794 pages bound A4 size!!)

It  is  the  family history  of  two  convicts Nathaniel Lucas and Olivia Cascoigne first to Australia  and then on to Norfolk Island and back again and  their  marriage and their 13 children and all of  their children's children down to 2004.

It contains  the family  tree of all the children  with numerous family photos down through the generations.

A fascinating book,  the statistical information is so interesting IE on  the descendants  down to generation 10  there is 40.783 direct descendants, it claims a 1 in 642 living descendants as number of population.

The amount of surnames included is  just far too many to list  but  if  you  have a relationship  and would like me to look at  the book  for  you  I will, as the copyright says

"All rights reserved. Except as permitted under copy right law no part of this publication may be reproduced or distributed in any form or by any means, or stored in a data base or retrieval system without the prior permission of the author.  The only exception being for family historians, who may use parts of this work not exceeding twenty percent in total without prior written approval."

Now you  might think  that Jenn  has  not listed Lucas in  her Surnames which is  the case  but my  new little grandson is related down the line from  his dad to this marvellous couple hence the interest, my grandson  great grandmother on his fathers side gave me  the book  to  look at as she knew from my daughter I  had a small interest (LOL) in Genealogy!

I was a wee bit jealous as I still  haven't found a convict in any of my  lines and here is little Mason  descendant from two  at least!

regards Jenn

[trish251]

Hi Jenn

Sounds like a wonderful book. You are allowed to "share" your grandson's convicts      - I virtually stole my husband's 2 convicts (who also went to Aust (NSW) then Norfolk then Aust (Tas)) & fully claim them as my own (well they belong to my daughter    )

Trish

[tropicalj]

Well now  thenTrisha

I guess you are right there

some of this mob also went off to Tasmania,  one just cannot imagine  the life, Nathaniel and Olivia had. They had  twin girls who were killed just beofre their second birthday when Nathaniel was cutting down two norkfolk pines and one fell  the wrong way crushing the house and killing  the twins who were outside on the far side playing and injurying Olivia who had a babe in arms.  One  just cannot imagine  it at all.  The book does contain some wonderfull stories of early life in the colonies.

regards Jenn

[Kazzaqld]

I own a copy of the first edition of this BIG book - am happy to help with information for  anyone who might need it!

I am not in it - but loads and loads of my rellies are.

[umajo]

i am new here but i am from charters towers and the lucas are a descendant of ours on my husbands side and would love to get hold of that book nation within a nation the lucas clan do you know where i can find one  or any info on the lucases  mainly photos as well

[tropicalj]

Hello  thee
and Welcome to Rootschat.

I  only  had the book  for a short while and have now handed it back  to my  grandsons great grandmother on his fathers side.

I  will  make enquiries further as to  where  you  might get a  copy.

I  believe  that  the families were able to order a copy  to  purchase when  the new addition  came out.

I  know  there is a history  group  in  The Towers so  maybe an enquiry  there might help

kind regards Jenn

[aussie41353]

G'day All, Hoping someone would be able to look up the book "Nation within a Nation" to find either a Minnie Amelia Dunn born Walhalla, Victoria 1871 - Died Carlton Victoria 1943?

 Also, a Theresa Annie Dunn, Born sometime after 1920. I believe Theresa married a Robert Richmond Smith who was born in Sale, Victoria.

If possible, could I have parents and siblings of these individuals.

thanking you,

Leigh

[tropicalj]

Hi  there Aussi

Do you feel these two will be mentioned in  this book?

thanks Jenn

[tropicalj]

I can tell you tha
DUNN  Minnie Amelia  died aged 71 in 1943 at Carlton  reg no 284
father Dunn Rich  and mother Eliza unknow surnames


this is not from  the book  though

Jenn