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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #9 on: Friday 07 September 07 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have a 1949 and a 1957 Brighton Street Directory at home, but am travelling at the moment.  When I get back, I 'll see if it adds anything about the Fowlers of Red Cross Street.
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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 September 07 15:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Linda

I've just come back from the History Centre, and here is what I've found for you

16 Redcross Street was lived in up to the war (or rather until 1937 at least) by Daniel and Agnes Bailey.

The first Voters List after the war was 1947, and on that the residents are Ada C Fowler, John A Fowler (your father I presume), Elizabeth Beale, and Thomas and Edith Hopkinson. No Walter Fowler, so I would guess he was no longer alive, or was not eligible to vote for some reason.

By 1948 the Hopkinsons had moved on and the house was now joined by Lamie S Clarence and Victor G Saunders

From 1951 till 1956 the only registered voters there were Ada C Fowler and John A Fowler. In 1957 the occupants are listed as John A Fowler and Dorothy P Fowler, and they are recorded at the address until their last entry in 1962.

So it looks like Ada C Fowler was probably your grandmothers name.

Looking on Ancestry, there is a death record for Ada C Fowler in Brighton in the December quarter of 1956 at the age of 76.

The details if you want to order a certificate are as follows:
Year: 1956
Quarter: December
Age: 76
District: Brighton
Volume: 5h
Page: 151

Also on Ancestry, there is a marriage record for a Walter J Fowler to an Ada Nye in Brighton in 1918.

The details to order this certificate are as follows:
Year: 1918
Quarter: June
District: Brighton
Volume: 2b
Page: 486

I can't see any local Ada Nye's of the correct age on the 1881, 1891 or the 1901 censuses so its possible that she was born elsewhere, or that this was her second marriage. If she is the same Ada Fowler as died in 1956, she would have been 38 or there abouts at the time, so a second marriage may well be more likely.

I wouldn't guarantee these are the correct certificates you need, but they look like a good place to start.

(Maybe they married in Brighton after the war, and then emigrated in the hopes of starting a better life in Canada. And then possibly Walter died in Canada, and Ada and son John moved back to be near Ada's family in Brighton. Purely speculation, but that's half the fun...)

It might be worth asking if anyone with an Ancestry World Membership or a findmypast.com subscription could look to find Walter and Ada Fowler travelling either to Canada between 1918 and 1920, or back from Canada with son John before 1947 (Walter may or may not be with John and Ada). Without a subscription, I can only see an Ada Fowler travelling to Halifax in 1919 from Liverpool, and a W J Fowler doing the same, but without buying credits, I can't be sure . They could have been on different ships or totally unrelated.

Hope some of this helps.

Glen

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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 September 07 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Glen

I am so extremely grateful for your help.
It's exactly what I was looking for.
It now helps me to research the other side of my family.

Since starting to research my family history, I can't believe how emotional I've been.
Does this happen to everyone?

Many Many Thanks again
Linda
Sussex,  Luck, Fowler, Nye.
Essex,  Turner,
Sussex, Tugnutt/Tucknott
Canada Tugnutt/Tucknott
Sussex  Mercer
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 September 07 23:30 BST (UK) »
Since starting to research my family history, I can't believe how emotional I've been.
Does this happen to everyone?

Probably not everyone, but to a fair few, I would think.

I feel a genuine emotional link to people who never existed in my lifetime, and are essentially just names on documents. Silly really when you think about it, but without them, none of us would be here to find them.

Glen


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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 09 September 07 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Glen

 Once again  Many Thanks for the info, I have spent a lot of today on the computer trying to find Ada Nye and Walter J Fowler

Rumor had it that my Grandma (Ada) already had children when she married Walter, so with 10 units left on findmypast, this it what I found.

name                                       Ada Fowler
Date of departure                   5 August 1919
Port of departure                     Liverpool
Passenger destination port     Halifax, Canada
Passenger destination            Halifax, Canada
Age                                          Adult
Marital Status                          Married
Sex                                          Female
Occupation                              Housewife
Passenger recorded on           Page 7 of 71

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage

Ada Fowler              Page 7 0f 71
Ceciel Fowler           "         "
E W Fowler              "       47 of 71
H Fowler                  "       20 of 71
Harry Fowler            "       7 of 71
Jalk Fowler               "       7 of 71
W J Fowler                "      7 of 71

W J Fowler    adult
Harry Fowler age 8
Cecil Fowler age 6
Jalk Fowler age 6

All the Fowlers recorded on page 7 of 71, are they travelling as a family unit?

Have you any idea's how I find out about Ada and John travelling back from Canada?

Thanks a lot
Linda

(memo to myself must remember to take a break and eat something.)
Sussex,  Luck, Fowler, Nye.
Essex,  Turner,
Sussex, Tugnutt/Tucknott
Canada Tugnutt/Tucknott
Sussex  Mercer
Wiltshire  Jackman

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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 September 07 17:21 BST (UK) »
Yes the family unit travelling to Canada in 1919 is..

W J Fowler Adult
Ada housewife adult
Harry 8
Cecil 6
Jack 4
Ada 9

Dad's profession looks like it says DVR ???

Carol


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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 09 September 07 17:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol

Thanks for looking, I didn't have enough units left to go any further.

On my Mum and Dad's marriage certificate in 1956, it says he was a chef.

Thanking you
Linda
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Canada Tugnutt/Tucknott
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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 09 September 07 18:55 BST (UK) »
If Walter and Ada only married in 1918 then were these children from his former marriage or should they be called Nye and be hers?   As the eldest is also called Ada that looks quite likely.   Or a mixture of two families??   I think you need to get the marriage certificate to see if either of them was widowed.  I have had a quick look for births for kids with those names but without much success.  There is a Cecil D Fowler born in Brighton in Oct 1912 - mother's maiden name is Jones.  Cannot find a Cecil Nye but there is a Walter C Nye in Jan 1912, Brighton too.  Mother's maiden name is Richardson.
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Re: Electoral Rolls Brighton 1950's
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 09 September 07 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrea

Thanks for helping, I also saw Cecil, but could not find anyone else.
Rumour as it that Ada had children from her first marriage.
But can not find anything.
 What was her maiden name?     Nye?
 Who did she marry first time around?     Nye?
Where was she born?
 She was 40 when she had my dad in Canada, did she have more over there?
 When did they travel back?
 Did they all travel back to the UK together?
Ada and son John did arrive back sometime between 1920 and 1947.

I guess I will have to wait until I have her marriage certificate to get any further.

Many Thanks
Linda
Sussex,  Luck, Fowler, Nye.
Essex,  Turner,
Sussex, Tugnutt/Tucknott
Canada Tugnutt/Tucknott
Sussex  Mercer
Wiltshire  Jackman