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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 09:48 BST (UK) »
Noells

Thank you so much for all your help.  It's much appreciated.  I'm still trying to work out why a Dorset lad should team up with one from Hunts to emigrate, unless they met in the militia.

Another mystery is the arrival of Thomas Voss in Australia.  I haven't found him on the assisted or unassisted passenger lists yet, unless like his brother Joseph his surname was mistranscribed.

Australian marriage certs are so much more helpful than British ones!

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HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs.

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 09:52 BST (UK) »
Sue

Thanks for your helpful hint.  I know what you mean about information recorded by family researchers, and there seem to be rather a lot of question marks on this entry.  Still, some of the information tallies with what we have discovered so far.

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 10:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Gillg

I have found a Charles FULLER dying in Williamstown 1904 aged: 62 Reg: 10965
parents James FULLER & Elizabeth HAYNE

Also Matilda Anne CHRISTIE dying 1866 aged 33 Born: London Reg: 3520
parents: James FULLER & Elizabeth HAYNE

So, that would make the Mary Ann arriving "Stuart Wortley" the likely candidate.

Checking the British Census - Thomas VOSS doesn't appear with the family in 1841, so he may have come out then. 
Port Phillip was a part NSW then so the records would be with them.

If you want the info from the census, I can transcribe it for you.

Regards

Genni

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 10:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Just noticed this thread. It's probably not directly connected, but my Foss ancestors appeared in the 1841 census in Beaulieu, Hampshire, mis-transcribed as Voss. Might be worth checking if the reverse has happened for your Thomas Voss.

I also found them transcribed as "Fofs", where the old long "s" had been misinterpreted, so "Vofs" might also be worth a look.

I'll go through my own research notes later to see if there's anything that might help.  :)

Mike.
Baskervill - Devon, Foss - Hants, Gentry - Essex, Metherell - Devon, Partridge - Essex/London, Press - Norfolk/London, Stone - Surrey/Sussex, Stuttle - Essex/London, Wheate - Middlesex/Essex/Coventry/Oxfordshire/Staffs, Gibson - Essex, Wyatt - Essex/Kent

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 10:43 BST (UK) »
A side-line ... there's a really good novel by Patrick White set in 19th C. Australia, caled 'Voss' ...
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 11:46 BST (UK) »
Genni

This is great information!  I can't see Thomas in the NSW arrivals so far, but will keep checking.  He would be an early pioneer indeed if he left before 1841.

Yes please for the census information. 


Mike

That's a thought - Joseph's surname was mistranscibed as Vass, so anything goes.  There are quite a few German Vosses emigrating to Oz, too, which is confusing.
 

Lydart

The book sounds interesting.  I'm off to the library to order a copy.  Just Googled Patrick White and see that in his early life he attended Cheltenham College, just down the road from me. 


And yes, Voss is also a town in Norway (been there).

Thanks everyone for your help.

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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs.

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 12:24 BST (UK) »
Census 1841
HO107/282/12 page 5
Winterborne Came, Dorset
Thomas Voss 46 Blacksmith
Ann Voss 44
George Voss18
Mary Voss 13
Cornelious Voss 11
Caroline Voss 8
Joseph Voss 6
Susan Voss 4
All born in County

1851 Census
H107/1858/229 Page 8
Came, Winterborne Came Dorset
Thomas Voss Head 56 Came Dorset Blacksmith employing 1 man
Ann Voss Wife 52 Fordington Dorset
Mary Ann Voss Daughter 22 Came Dorset
Susan Voss Daughter 13 Came Dorset
James Voss Son 8 Came Dorset
Henry ?elsley Lodger 28 Manninglee Essex Game keeper
William H Chapman Lodger 16 New Lakenham Norwich Gardener

HO107/1858/230 Page 9 & 10
Came House, Winterborne Came, Dorset
Bosville Durrant Head Land proprietor
Joseph Voss Servant 17 Came Winterborne Dorset Servant
The household takes up the whole of page 9 and part of page 10 Joseph is listed on page 10

1861 Census
RG9/1353 Folio: 9 Page: 12
Winterborne Came, Dorset
Thomas Voss Head 66 Came Dorset Blacksmith employing 2 men
Mary Ann Voss Wife 62 Fordington Dorset Laundress
Susan Voss Daughter 23 Came Dorset Laundress
James Voss Son 18 Came Dorset Blacksmith
 
Cheers


Genni
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Armstrong, Gray, Greco, Lambden, Le Busque, Beaton, Carron, Pitt, Gould
Areas:
Victoria, Tasmania, Hampshire, Berkshire, Yorkshire, Fermanagh, Glamorgan

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 12:30 BST (UK) »
Genni

You're a star!   ;D ;D ;D

Thanks so much.  Now I just have to work out how Joseph Voss palled up with Joseph Fairy in Hunts. 

Gillg
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HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs.

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Re: Joseph Voss arrived Victoria 1857
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 September 07 12:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Some burials
Sharing location the - CE 124 002- on Altona/Williamstown cemetery deceased search facility...

http://www.altonamemorialpark.com.au/VirtualMemorial/VirtualPark.asp

Charles FULLER d.1904  "remains not at Altona Memorial Parkor not at marked location".

Edith FULLER d. 1875
Jane FULLER d. 1893

Sue
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