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Offline chloed

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Holborn Bars
« on: Thursday 20 September 07 08:56 BST (UK) »
would like to know where holborn bars was / is  please .
have looked on greenwoods 1827 map and more recent ones but cannot find exact location, i think its somewhere north east direction of chancery lane.
thank you ???
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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 September 07 10:21 BST (UK) »
It is where the Prudential building stands on Holborn.  This link tells you something of the Pru site history.

http://www.ludgatecircus.com/prudential.htm


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Hepburn - Clerkenwell, Islington, Limehouse, Grays, Northumberland, Derby, Warwickshire
Cowell - Stanford le Hope, Erith, Orsett, Grays
Powell - Sheppey Kent, New Zealand
Williams - Llanferres, Clwyd, Denbighshire

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 September 07 10:31 BST (UK) »
Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk<br />Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk<br />Harrison: London; Pollock<br />Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx<br />Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk<br />Rogers: London; Bartlett: London<br />Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants<br />Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 September 07 10:33 BST (UK) »
This site gives some background and more pictures

http://www.victorianlondon.org/districts/holborn.htm

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk<br />Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk<br />Harrison: London; Pollock<br />Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx<br />Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk<br />Rogers: London; Bartlett: London<br />Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants<br />Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 February 09 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barry,
I picked up your link whilst Google-ing.
My g. grandfather was Edward Hepburn b.1846 Goswell St.
Clerkenwell.
His parents were Charles and Elizabeth from Holborn.
Are you researching this family ?
With regards,
Vicki
John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 February 09 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have done extensive research on Holborn. I have even set up a group about the parish of St Alban Holborn on Facebook. I also have a collection of photos of the area.

My great, great grandmother and her parents lived here from 1878 to her fathers death in 1889. They lived at 69 Leather Lane, 9 Portpool Lane, then 18 Evelyn Buildings which is down Dorrington Street, Holborn Above The Bars. Dorrington Street is just north of Furnivals Inn.

Furnivals Inn is just below the Brookes Market and Prudential buildings.

In 1813 my Coombs ancestors lived for a short time at 114 Grays Inn Lane in Holborn.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 February 09 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben,
on the 1841 Census my g.g.g. grandparents are listed as being born in England but not in that county which would have been Middlesex.
He is aged 60 and she 62. However, I have been advised that they often rounded up an age to the nearest decade.
He could have a birth date of 1776 - 1785.

The I.G.I. has a marriage for a John and Elizabeth 1805 at Bishopwearmouth Northumberland.

Not sure so I am trying all other avenues first.

Would love to see Holborn photo's.
Vicki
John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 February 09 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Vicki:  Yes I am researching the Hepburn's of Clerkenwell/Islington and possibly Limehouse: they seemed to move around a bit!  At the moment I am struggling to decide if two William Hepburn's are the same person and until I resolve that I am reluctant to 'spread my wings', so I have not come across your Edward yet.  I don't doubt he is connected somewhere, coming from the same area - there weren't that many Hepburn's although far more in London than I ever imagined.  We must stay in touch and exchange any links we find.  Ref the 1841 census, for any person over the age of 15, enumerators were only required to enter their age to the nearest 5 below.  However, some enumerators did ignore this and put the declared age in.

Ben:  Thanks for that information and I am sure all your hard work is going to be of value.  Perhaps I can contact you when I have a specific query.

Barry
Hepburn - Clerkenwell, Islington, Limehouse, Grays, Northumberland, Derby, Warwickshire
Cowell - Stanford le Hope, Erith, Orsett, Grays
Powell - Sheppey Kent, New Zealand
Williams - Llanferres, Clwyd, Denbighshire

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 February 09 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben and Barry,
not sure if I can do this but if you would like to email me I have certificates, census returns and a portrait of a John Hepburn. Possibly our g.g.g.grandfather.


Bye for now,
Vicki



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John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon