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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 February 09 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Vicki, where in Holborn did John & Elizabeth live in 1841?

I have an 1894 and 1914 and 1965 map of Holborn as well plus a book called Memories Of Holborn.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 February 09 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben,
There address on the 1841 census is 76 Theobalds Road.
The National Archives has a Sun assurance for John 1824 at 13 Fisher Street Red Lion Square, his occupation:- Bookbinder.

British History online states that Fisher St was incorporated into Theobalds Road, so assume this is the same address.

They live there until John's death in 1855.

His son Charles moves to Goswell St, Clerkenwell.

Hope this is of help
Vicki
John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 February 09 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Theobalds Road is where the Holborn Library is. The North end of Grays Inn is fully viewable from Theobalds Road.

Theobalds Road is to the left of the Grays Inn Road, Clerkenwell and Theobalds Road crossroads. If you notice that huge building with the Victorian facade, well my great grandmother lived there from 1914 to 1917.

I have a few photos courtesy of the library of bomb damage to a few Holborn streets during WW2.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 February 09 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
sounds if our ancestors were almost neighbours.

How can I access your photo's ?
Can I see them on this site or will they arrive by email ?

This is my first attempt at this site. I cannot read a reply until I have checked my email. Is this normal. Bit of a bind.
Vicki
John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 February 09 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Vicki

You need to have a Facebook account to view the group I think. If you do I can post the link.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 February 09 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Whether John & Elizabeth are mine or not depends on whether I have one or two William Hepburn's

William Hepburn b circa 1806 allegedly in St George Martyr (adjacent parish to St Andrew Holborn in Red Lion Square!), was a bookbinder before entering army at 21, pensioned off 1842.  Father was John and he married a Mary from Stoke by Guidlford at some time, probably after leaving army and had first child 1843ish.  This one is conclusively my ancestor.

William Alexander Hepburn bp St Andrew Holborn 1806 parents John & Elizabeth.  He married Mary Dean from Stoke by Guildford in 1843 at St Michael Bassetshaw (next door to Guildhall) at which time he states his occupation as jeweller.  I have the certificate - father John was a bookbinder - witnesses Charles & Sarah Buck.

Easy to jump to the conclusion they are the same - too many coincidences?  If they are then my gggparents are indeed John & Elizabeth.  At present I am laboriously ploughing through GRO indexes looking for William Alexander's death and/or children.   I too found the IGI John & Elizabeth in Bishopswearmouth but I do not think they are the same as I found another one in a London Parish register at the LMA - just cannot put my finger on it at the moment in my overcrowded filing system.  I also recollect finding more children of John & Elizabeth at the LMA and i will send you details when I look them up

Barry
Hepburn - Clerkenwell, Islington, Limehouse, Grays, Northumberland, Derby, Warwickshire
Cowell - Stanford le Hope, Erith, Orsett, Grays
Powell - Sheppey Kent, New Zealand
Williams - Llanferres, Clwyd, Denbighshire

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 February 09 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ben, is the facebook Group "The Parish Of St Alban Holborn, London EC1. A Historical Portrait. ."

Barry
Hepburn - Clerkenwell, Islington, Limehouse, Grays, Northumberland, Derby, Warwickshire
Cowell - Stanford le Hope, Erith, Orsett, Grays
Powell - Sheppey Kent, New Zealand
Williams - Llanferres, Clwyd, Denbighshire

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 February 09 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barry and Ben,
I have just sent you a message and downloaded a marriage certificate for Charles and the 1841 census.

an error occured as this site could not support this.
Just hung my computer.

Have signed on at Face book:- Vicki Pluckrose Hertfordshire.

talk soon,
Vicki
John & Elizabeth Hepburn born approx 1780 England
Bookbinder at Holborn till 1855.
Looking for marriage and birth county.
Simpson Channel Islands.
Clynick Devon Cornwall
Roberts Middlesex
Soper Devon

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Re: Holborn Bars
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 February 09 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barry

Yes that is the one.

Ben
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain