Do the mighty fall?

[CatOne]

Summary cos getting confused! 

1861 11 Maskell Street, Chorlton upon Medlock, Lancs
Henry J Street 27 Solicitors Clerk Ashton under Lyne
Eliza 25/8? Coventry


1871 Madeley Street, Tunstall, Wolstanton
Henery James Street 36 Solicitors Clerk Ashton Lancashire
Eliza 36 Coventry
Joseph Hardean 7 Leamington

Death - Henry James Street June 1875 Wolstanton Vol 6b Page 85 age 41

1881 22 Madeley Street, Tunstall, Wolstanton
H J Street widow 48 Coal Merchant Coventry
H J W son 17 Junior School Assistant Leamington

so HJW must be the same as Joseph Hardean?? - same address, same place and year of birth.....

1891 Lady Bridge Bank, Tamworth
Eliza Street widow 53 Housekeeper Coventry

1891 1 King Street, Tunstall, Wolstanton
Henry J W Street 27 Auctioneers Clerk Leamington
Lilian 23 Hitchin Herts
Francis H L 4mo Tunstall

1901 Deritend, Aston
Henry Jas Street 37 Bus Conductor Leamington
Alice 32 Brierly Hill
Henry 9 Tunstall
Ellen Louisa 3 Birmingham
Daniel Jas 1 Birmingham
Elsie Cordelia 14days Birmingham
+ 3 Hayes stepchildren Geoffrey Albert, Lilian and Florence Emma


The only Henry Street I can find in 1851 is -

HO107/2179 Folio 613 Page 41
Dale Street, Liverpool, Lancs
Henry Street visitor 20 Cotton Waste Dealer Ashton
in house of the Howell family (Grapes Inn)

Is this the one you have?

[trish251]

Hi CatOne

Good summary, but I think you should probably add this one

1901 Staffordshire Tamworth Fazeley 7 Albert Road RG13/2651 22/35
Eliza Street head Wid 65 Lets apartments  Warwicksh Coventry
Frank do grandson 10 Staffs Tunstall
and some boarders

(Frank being Francis H L 4mo in 1891)

Trish

[toni*]

do you have a death for Lilian?

the only possible one i can find 1891-1901 is :~

Lillah Street Q3 1896 Halifax age 29

[toni*]

Marriage -

Henry James W Street to Lilian Frisby June 1890 Wolstanton Vol 6b Page 226

how about Henrys second marriage to Alice:~


Q4 1893 Thetford Henry Street & Alice Fowell 4b 1015

which would rule out the possible death i found for Lilian

[Lydart]

Could it be CANTOR ?

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03306a.htm

... gives info on the duties of a cantor in the Catholic (and Orthodox) church ... he was a singer and instructor ? 

Just a thought ...

[NicoC]

Hi all

Cat, perfect summary & yes that's the only Henry I can find in 1851 that seems likely too. There are a few in Manchester in 1841 but none that I can find in Ashton.

Lydart, could be a Cantor although it definately says Canter. No real history of Catholics in my family but then again, you never know!

Toni, I'll have to have a quick look into the death of Lillah, seems a strange place to be & ditto the marriage of Alice & Henry (would mean that she would have to move to Norfolk remarry To A Fowell, he'd have to die & then they all move back, but hey you never know with my family!). I'm quite liking the idea that Lilian ran off to be a singer & left her husband to live in sin with another  woman & raise her kids- it's a cool story!

Thanks all for help & suggestions

[Dancing Master]

Could it not also be a "carter"  someone who drove carts for deliveries etc.,

[kazlawson1]

Hi NicoC, the Francis Henry Lee Street born 1891. His father is Henry James Wareham Street 1864-1940 and his mother is Lilian Street (Frisby) 1868-1935, are my Great Grand Parents. I do know Henry James Wareham Street had a family with Alice McCrohon 1868-1934. I have been trying to find out why Henry and Lilian split up but I do know my Grandad Francis Henry Lee Street lived with my Great Great Grandma Eliza Street (Wareham). I hope this helps.