Do the mighty fall?

[CatOne]

In 1881, HJW Street seems to be with father HJ Street, Coal Merchant. Is that the correct one?

[stanmapstone]

her father is listed as James Street occupation 'canter' (which apparently is one of those people who stands on street corners spouting the bible). Thanks

Nico

Hi Nico,
The correct name is Ranter It is also applied to members of the Primitive Methodist body, which originated in 1807-10.

Stan

[NicoC]

Yep, that's right one in 1881 except it's not his father but his mother! I'm guessing she must have given her name as Mrs Henry Street rather than her own (Eliza).

Yes, I have Joseph's Hayes death & his marriage to Alice (nee McCrohan- although listed as McCrokan) & I have Henry's marriage to Lilian Frisby but that's really interesting that there's a Lilian up in Yorkshire! I wonder whether they just split up & he got together with Alice but they never married? How exciting, my mum will think that's great (although it's probably best that my grandmother isn't still alive because she would NOT appreciate that)!

Nico

[trish251]

Hi Nico

Twas interesting but no doubt needs much more checking. I haven't been able to track the son that was with them in 1891. That may help if he can be found.

Trish

[NicoC]

I can't find him either, mystery family!

[CatOne]

Is the Henry that is with them in 1901 possibly the Francis H(enry) L that is with the family in 1891? Known by his second name and yob out by a year? (Registered March 1891 Wolstanton)

amended. although there is a registration for a "Henry Street" in Wolstanton in 1892 

[trish251]

Is the Henry that is with them in 1901 possibly the Francis H(enry) L that is with the family in 1891? Known by his second name and yob out by a year? (Registered March 1891 Wolstanton)

amended. although there is a registration for a "Henry Street" in Wolstanton in 1892 

As you note - you have probably found Henry

Francis H L Street born Tunstall was 4 months old at the census 1891 - 5 April 1891 - gives him a birth registration 1890/91 - Probably this one
March 1891 Francis Henry L Street Wolstanton 6b 119

Trish

[trish251]

May be him with grandmother Eliza

1901 Staffordshire Tamworth Fazeley 7 Albert Road RG13/2651 22/35
Eliza Street head Wid 65 Lets apartments  Warwicksh Coventry
Frank do grandson 10 Staffs Tunstall
and some boarders

not really any help

Trish

[NicoC]

Sorry, I was mixed up with the 1871 census where Eliza & Henry (snr) have a Joseph Hardean Street with them that I can't find again.

I think I assumed that the Henry in 1901 was Francis H (although know you should never assume anything here!), but that's really interesting the Frank with Eliza. I've just checked & she was in Tamworth in 1891 working as a housekeeper so looks quite likely that this is her. In which case, Frank must either be Francis or the child of the elusive Joseph Hardean! It's a bit of a tangled web isn't it?!