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Manders Menagerie
« on: Friday 12 October 07 19:24 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any information or ever even heard of a Manders Menagerie, a traveling circus in the 1850s-1860s ?

I suspect my G-G-GF  worked for Manders and I want to find out anything about the show I can. Ned Green was an acrobat and "equestrian artist." Later in life he was Professor Green a Punch and Judy man.

Scotland; Dumfries (Beattie), Ayrshire (Anderson) Galashiels (Aitken/Mack) Berwick (John Ford, William Ford)<br />Manchester (Walter Lake 1865-1903, Green) Great Budworth (William Smith, formerly Rayner) <br />Worcs. (Stourbridge- Samuel Hill) (Dudley- Anderson)

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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 October 07 19:45 BST (UK) »
There is a book called

MANDERS SHOWS & MENAGERIES by Kevin Scrivens & Stephen Smith

published by THE FAIRGROUND SOCIETY 2008  (but we're only in 2007  :-\)

It's for sale on ebay at the moment.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 October 07 20:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks!
I ordered the book and we will see if it covers the period in question. When I Googled Manders a year ago, there was not much on the web. Hopefully there is some timeline to their travels in the book.

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Scotland; Dumfries (Beattie), Ayrshire (Anderson) Galashiels (Aitken/Mack) Berwick (John Ford, William Ford)<br />Manchester (Walter Lake 1865-1903, Green) Great Budworth (William Smith, formerly Rayner) <br />Worcs. (Stourbridge- Samuel Hill) (Dudley- Anderson)


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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 October 07 20:44 BST (UK) »
you could try a few of these

National Fairground Archive:

http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/

Galloper

http://www.galloper.co.uk/

Fairground Assoc. of Great Britain

http://www.fagb.co.uk/

British Fairground Ancestors: Census and other transcriptions:

http://users.nwon.com/pauline/Travellers.html


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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 October 07 20:51 BST (UK) »
In actual fact, I think you should try google again (its amazing how much gets put online week to week!)

I just turned up this:

http://www.fairground-heritage.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=661&sid=6acba89e589df0165caf15e7e69c8e71

"I am the wife of John Manders, grandson of George and Margaret Manders, we are researching John's family tree. This is the verified information I have so far. Many people contributing to this site seem to have bits of information and their opinions and additions would be much appreciated. "

it goes on.....


9 July 1860, Cattle Market Leeds poster 'Manders Royal Menagerie' shows Maccomo the African Lion Tamer.

"1861 William and Rosina Manders appear on census in Bathwick, Bath travelling with Martinia Maccomo, unmarried, 25 Angola, Africa, performer of lions and tigers. " theres a bit after about Thomas MacCarte a great lion tamer who was killed by the lions....

and so on... check it out :)






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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 October 07 20:53 BST (UK) »
and here, youll find an actual playbill from 1860

http://www.leodis.net/playbills/item.asp?ri=2003108_29177493&p=2

I think ill leave you to that new google search :) happy hunting

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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 October 07 00:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the help!

For anyone curious enough, the tale of how my GG-GF Edward Green may have joined Manders in 1839 is documented in my GM words at the following link:
http://www.smithb.com/familytree/wp01/p01_003a.pdf

See below for updated link
Scotland; Dumfries (Beattie), Ayrshire (Anderson) Galashiels (Aitken/Mack) Berwick (John Ford, William Ford)<br />Manchester (Walter Lake 1865-1903, Green) Great Budworth (William Smith, formerly Rayner) <br />Worcs. (Stourbridge- Samuel Hill) (Dudley- Anderson)

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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 October 07 09:09 BST (UK) »
What an amazing story. 

Thank you for sharing it with us.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Manders Menagerie
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 October 07 09:54 BST (UK) »
I wish my ancestors had left such tales .......

A wonderful story, and well written, I was rapt. Its excellent.

Thank you.