Xaver Beinberger from Bavaria to Alberta

[J.J.]

You're a gem, dollylee to persevere so... ...we're hoping something happens for all your trouble.
  J.J.

[Svenja]

Hi J.J.

The database of the passengerlists says this:

Beinberger Xaver, 23 years old, Germany,  
Date of Arrival: 1929/07/05 (YYYY/MM/DD)
Port of Arrival: Halifax , Nova Scotia
Ship: YORCK , North German Lloyd or ALCOA PLANTER , Alcoa

But know I have a photo which says this:
Columbus, 02.06.1929, from Bremen to America.
To remember my journey, Nordd. Lloyd Bremen 1929.

I also thought it could be that he has changed his name,
but in the book about Jarvie/Alberta he is written as
Beinberger, so I think he had never changed his name.

If I could find Anna in the 1931 census and find out where
she lived and where she was born or where she came from
that would be very good for me.
But I wouldn't find her in the 1931 census, because then
she was only 14 years old - to young to be married - and
I don't know her maiden name.


Hi jorose

Thank you also for the interesting websites, especially
the one with the directories of Montreal. I looked up
the 1930ies but with no luck, I will also look up the
1940ies asap.

Hi dollylee

Thank you very much for your help, its so kind of you to
do all this for me. I hope there will be a reaction and we
will find more traces of Xaver and his wife Anna.

Greetings from Switzerland

Svenja

[J.J.]

Svenja,  there is more on the actual document. That was where the ship landed ...There may have been an actual destination ( where he was headed in Canada) on the original...
You can send for a copy here...National Archives Canada
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/copies/index-e.html

[dollylee]

We may have some help.  I received this email a few minutes ago and replied to it with an invitation to visit this site:

"Hi Dolly, I received you e-mail today and will try to help. I am currently
secretary of Westlock and District HistoricaL Society and Know many people
in the Westlock, Dapp and Jarvie areas. If you let me know the name of the
person looking for information I will see what I can find out. If I do find
anything I will forward it to you. It may take a few days. Hope this helps."

Guess all we can do now is wait......I am totally out of ideas.

dollylee

[2centsworth]

Dear Svenja,
A friend just told me about the murder of the Beinbergers, so I looked up the name and came to your chat forum.  Please keep in mind anything I say here is second or third hand.   My friend is going to ask around the area about it.  He lives near Dapp, a couple of miles from their house which he had been by a couple of times before the event.  I cannot find their murders on any unsolved murder list for Alberta.  He said there were a lot of theories about the case, including some bizarre rumours as one might expect.  The son went missing after the murders which to me suggests a very possible suspect in the case.  The family kept to themselves, and the house was --if I have any of this correct-- surrounded by a 6' picket fence, and there were two dogs, which also never appeared again after the murders, so I gather the place didn't seem very welcoming.  To see the area on Google Maps enter Long Island Lake, Westlock Country, Alberta and the place will be a little to your right and below the lake. I can't seem to get the GPS coordinates to appear.  A summer camp is several miles north and west of where the house would have been but it's a good map to get nearby. http://www.teentime.ab.ca/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=ZdhzUKWXwH4%3d&tabid=60
I'd really prefer to discuss this privately and am desperate to break Rootschat's rules.   

[cosmac]

You don't have to try and break any rules - simply post 2 more times if only to say hi.  Once you get 3 posts you can then use the PM button (green scroll) to contact the thread initiator and continue the discussion offline.

[Svenja]

Hi 2centsworth

Thank you very much for your information about the Beinbergers.
I don't know anything about the circumstances of their death.
I always thought that they hadn't got any children, because
I know that my grandmother and her siblings inherited something.
(I found a newspaper clipping that confirms this fact).


I have just seen that I haven't mentionned that I found out some
other facts about the life of Xavier Beinberger in Canada.

1. He appears in a
List of Aliens to whom Certificates of Naturalization under the Naturalization Act
were granted by the Secretary of State of Canada, during the month of August 1935.

Name, Country of Origin, Date of Certificate, Occupation, Residence
Beinberger Xaver, Germany, 31.08.1935, Miner, Willow Creek, Alberta.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/naturalization-1915-1932/index-e.html


2. He appears in the Canada Voters Lists (1935-1980)

1962: Xavier Beinberger, Dapp, Athabasca, Alberta, Farmer 
1963: Xavier Beinberger, Dapp, Athabasca, Alberta, Farmer
1963: Mrs. Xavier Beinberger, Dapp, Athabasca, Alberta
1965: Xavier Beinberger, Dapp, Athabasca, Alberta, Farmer
1965: Mrs. Xavier Beinberger, Dapp, Athabasca, Alberta


In the same year there was another one in the Canada Voters Lists:
1965: Xavier Beinberger, Arrowhead, British Columbia, sawmill worker
1965: Mrs. Anna Beinberger, Arrowhead, British Columbia

Here on my own Website is all that I know about Xavier Beinberger:
http://iten-genealogie.jimdo.com/auswanderer/xaver-beinberger/


Many thanks and best regards

Svenja

[2centsworth]

Thanks Svenja, 
It is interesting that there wasn't a son.  My friend and the neighbourhood assumed it was a son living there, but I might have misheard him too.  My friend is not online so the bits he learns will take a while to come. 

The story is gruesome, the bits he told me.  I'll get him to write it so I don't make more mistakes, but it's a bit vague anyway-- and coming through old folks who can and do misremember.  However it was an event that had the neighbourhood talking and was unforgettable.

 I'll get my friend to take a few pictures of the land and the farm.  That will take time, but we'll get on it.

[lilybell]

Good morning Svenja
This much I can tell you  Anna and Xavier are both buried  at the Westlock Town Cemetery.
I have more information which I will not post here as it is very grewsome.

Will PM you.


Lilybell