Grandmother - Majory DOHERTY

[Tees]

Could a kind soul here take a peek at this death entry of a Margaret Docherty nee McGuire who died in 1894 aged 45 in Maryhill, Glasgow 622/07 0091 as my credits has run out??

Also, 1887 Docherty Mary nee McGuire aged 30 in Greenock New or Middle/ in Refrew 564/01 0395?

Hopefully one of the entries showed that she was married to either Patrick or John Docherty.

I think we are able to help Greendoor in finding her Grandmother along this line now.

Pretty please???

Thanks!

Tees

[runningbear]

hi pal,

do you recognise this mcguire family from ireland?

1871 census- 27 ritchie lane, glasgow

constantine...age 63...butcher
ann...age 36
ann...age 20
john...age 17
margaret...age 15
james...age 10
constantine...age 8

1881 census- 13 anderson street, glasgow

cow...age 70...butcher
ann...age 50
margaret...age 23...butcher's shop keeper
james...age 20...cattle dealer


Joe

[greendoor]

Hi Tess/Joe
1918th aug

[Tees]

Hi Tess/Joe
1918th aug

Hi Greendoor,

I am not sure I understand your post above.

Regards,

Tees

[Tees]

Hi Joe/Greendoor,

As per sec PM from Greendoor, she said that on the first marriage certificate, Marjory's father's occupation is the packer.

It can be useful in tracing him in the censuses if we can find him.

Meanwhile, I am waiting for someone to get back to me regarding the death entries I found--hopefully, one of them is "ours."

If it is the case, then we can try to find her Grandmother's birth via the information on the death cert of her great-grandmother.

Finger crossed.

Kind regards,

Tees

[runningbear]

hi tees, greendoor,

further research suggest something completely different, so in the meanwhile, it is best to stop for a wee break until we sort out this new info.

Joe

[runningbear]

hi all,

as you are aware marjory was with the show people in 1908 in campbelltown when she married tobias wilders, she used the surname doherty but as it has turned out this was her mother's maiden name.

oor marjory was actually born...

marjory mcguire
9/7/1886
townhead place
stevenson

she was the daughter of james mcguire and margaret doherty.

james and margaret married 16/12/1882 in saltcoates. james was the son of patrick and ann mcgincey and margaret was the daughter of bernard and marjory devine.

at present i am going to stick with bernard and marjory.

1861 census- 6 goosedub street, glasgow

edward devine...age 52...labourer
bridget devine...age 52
rose devine...age 17...mill worker
william devine...age 9
marjory doherty...age 40
margaret doherty...age 13
marjory doherty...age 10
charles doherty...age 8
john doherty...age 5
edward doherty...age 3
patrick doherty...age 1

1871 census- drakemire street, saltcoats (the doherty family)

bernard...age 50...marine dealer
marjory...age 48
margaret...age 21
charles...age 17...clothier
john...age 15 (born 29/6/1855, a must buy cert!!!)
edward...age 13
patrick...age 11
ann...age 9
catherine brannan...age 4...orphan

1881 census- vernon street, saltcoats (the doherty family)

bernard...age 64...general dealer
majory...age 59
charles...age 28...dealer
john...age 26...carter
ann...age 20...house keeper
john...age 4....grandson

1891 census- 11 vernon st, saltcoats (the doherty family)

marjory...age 66...broker
ann...age 26...house keeper
john...age 14...grandson

1891 census- 33 green street, ardrossan (the mcguire family)

james...age 45...dock labourer
margaret...age 40
ann...age 14
mary...age 12
patrick...age 8
marjory...age 5 (this is yours !!!!)
margaret...age 3

things now get complicated as at this point i have no idea if marjory's parents die or seperate.

1901 census- 11 vernon street, saltcoats

marjory...age 80...dealer in second hand clothes
john...age 42...cartage contractor
edward...age 40...ship carpenter
ann...age 36...house keeper
mary ann...age 23...grand-daughter...dynamite worker
patrick...age 18...grandson...coal miner
margaret...age 13...grand-daughter

hope this helps to explain things for all concerned.

i reckon i have also found marjory's death in glasgow in which i have sent a pm to greendoor.

Joe

[Tees]

Hi Joekar!!

So, that 1894 death entry on Margaret Docherty was the one!

I will get the info of this entry to confirm your finding.

Well-done!! And it seems my theory was feasible one as I suggested that Doherty may not her actual surname due to the nature of being a showperson. Also, that we should look in Campbeltown area or its county for her birth.

So pleased that we are able to "close" the chapter for Greendoor, not quite completely but very close enough!

And you found a 80 years old Marjory just like I did. I have her marriage entry info if you need it.

Well-done, Joekar!! Wish I could treat you to a pint or two! 

Kind regards,

Tees

PS I wholeheartedly agree with your position that it is McGuire and that we stick with Bernard & Marjory.

[Tees]

Could a kind soul here take a peek at this death entry of a Margaret Docherty nee McGuire who died in 1894 aged 45 in Maryhill, Glasgow 622/07 0091 as my credits has run out??

Also, 1887 Docherty Mary nee McGuire aged 30 in Greenock New or Middle/ in Refrew 564/01 0395?

Hopefully one of the entries showed that she was married to either Patrick or John Docherty.

I think we are able to help Greendoor in finding her Grandmother along this line now.

Pretty please???

Thanks!

Tees

Hi Joekar,

See the 1894 death entry above? Well, Greendoor kindly offered to take a peek at this entry for us.

It turned out that her father is Bernard Docherty and mother Marjory Devine.

So that tied in with the findings you have posted here. Also, that 1908 Marriage Entry information regarding her parents being deceased is correct.

Kind regards,

Tees

PS Greendoor, I am curious as to whom she was married to?? Did it confirm what we are led to believe?? And who was her informant at the time of her death?