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Offline daveanpat

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 18 October 09 07:59 BST (UK) »
An other lad from Walthamstow here born in Thorpe coombe lived in corbett road went to wood st primary school and I remember walking the few yards to school with a hankie of my face because of the smogg!  Them we moved to sinnott road and went to st andrews school and then moved up to William elliot whitingham school until I was 13 and we moved to Billericay thus ending my bit of being a londoner.
 Mum was born in the Rising sun pub in  woodford  new road, but dad was a lincolnshire lad.
       So am I a Londoner or an Essex boy?

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 18 October 09 08:21 BST (UK) »
Ive been wondering about this and here seems to be the appropriate place to ask a question - my mother always said, with a great deal of pride I might add, that she was "born within the sound of Bow Bells".

Could you please enlighten me as to what this meant - I'm guessing the bells were a particular church (??) and was there a particular reason that she should be proud of the fact or was she just patriotic?

thanks, Viv :D



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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 18 October 09 09:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Viv,

see Reply #9 here on the topic :)

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 18 October 09 10:19 BST (UK) »
Ah! Bob, so you are a barrow boy too.

Shouldn't that be a Costermonger?  ;D

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 18 October 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
Monique - the marriage is Charles Chance and Jane Sheppard. I haven't explored them as much as I could . That is the next branch of my family that I am going to dig into when I have the time, I'm sure there's more that I can find about them. If I still get dead ends I shall put up a thread though.
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 18 October 09 16:00 BST (UK) »
In response to DaveanPat, I know the Rising Sun on the Woodford Road very well.  Lots of traffic on the front, now, but the back still faces on Epping Forest.  It's a very beautiful bit of London, no wonder they used to do chara trips from the East End out to the "country" there.

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:32 BST (UK) »
Ah! Bob, so you are a barrow boy too.

Shouldn't that be a Costermonger? ;D

Jean

Ooooh, posh, aren't we ! Actually, it should barra' boy ;D

Funnily enough, among ourselves, a lot of us "barra' boys" used to use cockney rhyming slang, even in Wales. Spiced with various yiddish phrases borrowed from the jewish traders, it was a almost a seperate language :)

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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:44 BST (UK) »
Ah! Bob, so you are a barrow boy too.

Shouldn't that be a Costermonger? ;D

Jean

Not so Jean.
Strictly speaking, a costermunger sold apples. A wider meaning, they sold fruit & veg  :)

The other barra' boys sold all kinds of stuff, clobber, cat meat, crockery etc...  ;D

I know The Rising Sun, had a bit of slap n tickle out the back after a couple of shandys  :o :D
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Re: TRUE LONDONERS - can we use such a phrase about our families...?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:53 BST (UK) »
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