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DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« on: Tuesday 30 October 07 11:57 GMT (UK) »

Here's DebUSA's Scavenger Hunt, It's a very interesting one and I'm sure there will be some really good information found for her.

Good luck Deb. :D :D


At the end of this Scavenger Hunt, Deb's thread will be moved to the Traveller Board, it will remain unlocked so the information will stay available it will also make it possible for others to post at a later date. 

What I will do is pull up the original Scavenger Hunt Thread and post under each participants name which board their thread has ended up in.   After discussing this with a Mod, I think this is the right thing to do. 


 As from next week, all the Scavenger Hunts will be in the Common Room

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Hi everyone 

I am hoping that you can help me fill in some gaps on my Penfold Gypsy family. I am lucky enough to have found them in some censuses but I am missing them in 1871 and 1881....

Thomas Penfold , my Gr gr grandad,( b 1841, Poole Dorset) married Sophia/Soffia Orchard (b 1846) in 1866, South Molton ,Devon.

1891; They are living in tents, Camp Downs, St Austell , Cornwall
RG12/1822 fol 114 p 14 ,transcribed as PENFULL , No place of birth given for any of them except Thomas , the dad , and that is incorrect.
Their children are :
William  b 1871-1873. ..my Gr grandfather , married Bessie Palmer = 8 Jan 1898
Defiance b 1872
John 1874 ....married Ellen Small
Christona/Christiana  1875 ..married Edwin Orchard
Christopher 1877 married #1 Carnation Richards, # 2 Maria Boswell
Edward 1879
Soffia 1881
Nelson 1883
Eliza 1886
Harriett 1885  married Samson Richards
Missia 1890
Selina 1891

The furthest back I have gone with the Penfold Family is:
John Pinfold/Penfold  b 1809, Warminster married 2 Aug 1831, Pimperne Dorset to Harriet James  b 1814, Kingclere, Berkshire. They are the parents of my Thomas Penfold b 1841, Poole.
their other children: Robert (1832), Sarah Harriet (1833), John(1834), Charlotte (1838), Christopher (1843), Elizabeth/betsy (1845), Alfred (1850), Henry (1852), Edward (1853)
(We think that John Pinfold/Penfold's parents may have been John and Charlotte Penfold)

1861: RG9/1601 fol 40 pg 30 ... transcribed as PENFORD
John and Harriet are here with some of their children including my Thomas.

1871: RG10/2148 fol 41 p 16
Harriet Penfold nee James, widow, living in a caravan with some of her children and future daughters-in-law. John Penfold b 1809, died 21 feb 1870.

I started researching this in Feb 2006, when I was very much a newbie . I go back from time to time to see if I can find them.... as you can see it is not easy as they are all over the place.,

This is the thread that you may want to read before searching, so as not to repeat what I have.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=125868.msg558330#msg558330

Thanks you guys 
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.<br />Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden<br />Lamb In Bolton and Ireland<br />Grundy In Bolton<br />Blackledge In Bolton<br />Osbaldeston ?? ??<br />Barnett in Islington<br />Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 12:51 GMT (UK) »
i tried reading through the other thread but got lost! so apologies if you already have this:~

Defiance Penfold died age 0 Q2 1873 Penzance 5c 186

so it seems they were in Cornwall in 1873


Nelson Penfold married Q1 1904 Camelford 5c 22
to lavinia Richards or Hannah Rush

it would appear these are connected although i am not sure how maybe grandchildern of Thomas:~

Missellie Penfold died age 1 Newton Abbot Q1 1908 5b 97 her birth ? (the only Mis* Penfoldi coudl find in teh full BMD 1866-1920), Q4 1903 St Columb 5c 72

so in Cornwall 1903 in Devon 1908?

birth, Sophia Penfold mmn. Orchid Q1 1913 South Molton 5b 663





Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 13:17 GMT (UK) »
hi Deb... oooohh it's yours this week  ;D

How exciting... i'm going to get my thinking brain going right now  ;)

Debz
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
WILD-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
GAMBLE-BARNSTABLE.DEVON


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 13:20 GMT (UK) »
deb , i've just had brief look... you remeber some time ..about a 100 postd  ;D
i said i work with a PENFOLD .. i said to Ian about you searching for your Penfolds and he said that his mum does roots search, i mentioned the traveller /gypsey link and he said that he thought that his mum had found gypsies also  ;D  ::)

i will try and get details but he is one of the Directors and so have to pin him down !! ;)

Debz
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
WILD-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
GAMBLE-BARNSTABLE.DEVON

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 13:44 GMT (UK) »
 :)

Hi everyone ... sometimes the Penfolds can get really frustrating ... That's why I have left them alone for a while ... hopefully you can do some great digging LOL ....don't forget to look behind the bushes ... sometimes that's where they may be hiding..... ;D

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 13:58 GMT (UK) »
1901
William   penfold H 28 pedlar/traveller own account born Kenwyn Cornwall
bessie penfold W 24     "     "        own account brn    "      "
John Penfold son 4
thomas  "     "  1
Christopher   "  3months

living in Kenwyn Cornwall, 25 Calenick (?) st

RG13 2222 foilio 47 page 15
Cutcliffe- Devon
Courtenay Powderham Castle
Barnard -Oxford and Claines
Tollet - Begbroke
Gamble and Clement Calcutta
SHAW-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
WILD-BETHNAL GREEN,MIDDLESEX
GAMBLE-BARNSTABLE.DEVON

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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 14:01 GMT (UK) »
yep ...that's my great grandparents ....

William Penfold married Bessie Palmer ... they had a lot more children, including my nan, Violet Venie ...both died in 1926.

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deb,

just marking this thread so I can come back with any finds.

Your family history is very interesting, how lucky they stayed in roughly the same area.

I've been reading your other thread and found it facinating.

Off to have breakfast, then I'll start digging.

Genie
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