Hello to Shane and Helen, remembering my Mum was over 80 when she gave me this information and that she had left Kent about 1934 this is what I recorded -
Joseph Baker, Constance Baker, Margaret Matthews, George Matthews, Patricia Matthews, Arthur Matthews, Charles Matthews and Rosie Matthews. No dates. So I haven't been of much help there, sorry. Perhaps the missing children are the ones sent to Australia, maybe through a scheme such as Barnardos.
Thanks for the info on Tom/Elizabeth's children. I think you are right, it was Aaron Richard, but there was another younger son, perhaps the Thomas b. 1905 was Francis then. Mum and Dinah used to take them to school and they always played up. Little Kate died, "overlaid" Mum said, perhaps a cot death. I didn't have the dates so thanks for that along with all the other information.
Shane this is the information I have on my grandma Elizabeth Kenny -
her parents Michael Kenny and Catherine Ronan married in Dover St. Paul's RC Church, 1/6/1853. He was son of Michael Kenny and Mary Walsh. Catherine daughter of Thomas Ronan and Mary Barry. In 1861 in Dover Michael is a Rag & Bone dealer, 35,b. Kerry, Ireland and Catherine 30, b. Co.Cork, (Ardfield) Ireland. Children Mary 7, John 3 and Catherine 6 months, all children b. Charlton. Elizabeth last child born 1 Jan. 1863. Michael died aged 38 Dec.27 1866.
Catherine and children went to live with her parents and in 1871 at Barwicks Alley, Dover, her father Thomas b. Ardfield, Co. Cork, 80, is now a widower, Catherine is a laundress, no Mary, but John, Catherine and Elizabeth are with her. There is also a "son-in-law" of Thomas Ronan, Florence McCarthy, 38, pensioner and tailor, b.Ireland. There was an Ellen Mary Kenny birth d/o Florence and Catherine, b. 9 March 1872, registered as Kenny birth. Perhaps son-in-law was another name for partner or de facto. I don't know what happened to Florence but Catherine seems to have married a Richard Gillman before 1877 as she died on 15 March 1877 as Catherine Rowland ( should have been Ronan) Gillman and is buried at St. James' Cemetery, the parish register has Catherine Gillman (Kenny).
I don't know what happened to Mary, John or Ellen or their mother Catherine's siblings possibly Michael, Margaret and Ann (who married James Ovenden), I am doubtful as to whether Ann is my line.
Elizabeth's sister Catherine (known as Kate) married Albert Dunster 3 May 1880 in St. Paul's.
Elizabeth married first James Gregory at St.Paul's 16, Feb.1882. Elizabeth was 19 of Military Road, Dover, father Michael deceased, a marine store dealer. James was 24, a mariner of 7 Worthington Lane, Dover, his father Henry Gregory, labourer. Witnesses Charles McCarthy and Ellen Gurthrie. James is believed to have died before 1888, drowned at sea.
Children baptised at St. Paul's - James Henry b.18 Apr. 1883, Albert Edward or William b.28 Nov. 1884 (died aged 3 mnths.) David b.15 Mar. 1887. I don't know what happened to these children.
Elizabeth Gregory married secondly Thomas Goldsmith at the parish church Sittingbourne, 15 Aug. 1888 they both claimed to be single and Elizabeth had her father as Thomas Kennett, witnesses were George Grigsby and Deborah Goldsmith. I think there was an earlier marriage to Thomas in a Catholic church but it wasn't registered correctly perhaps, the children of their union seem to have been baptised in a Catholic church and I am not sure that would be allowed without a Catholic marriage. Someone else may know about those regulations.
The 1891 census was confusing with Thomas Gregory noted as stepson of the above said to be aged 1, while Joseph's birthplace was given as Dover and aged 4. I thought perhaps Thomas was aka David Gregory who was born in 1887 which could make him 4 in 1891. What do you think ?
I would very much like to have Mickey's address if she wouldn't mind, thank you Shane.
Best wishes to you both and thanks Helen for your input. Brenda