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Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« on: Friday 23 November 07 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have access to newspaper reports for the trials of these felons:

James GILL - Jul 1828 - Sentenced to 12 months for theft
John GILL - Apr 1825 - Executed for horse stealing

SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 November 07 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi dee-jay,

I've been researching the history of Ilchester Gaol for some time now.

Despite a search of the Western Flying Post for a month either side of his conviction date, I could find no mention of James Gill's trial in July1828.

I did find a mention of the trial of John Gill with the conviction in 1825, but not too much I'm afraid.

He was tried at the Lent Assizes in Taunton. The presiding Judges were the Hon. Sir James Burrough and the Hon. Sir James Allen Park. This was a particularly busy hearing, with 160 prisoners on trial. The Hon. Sir James Burrough opened the hearing by stating that this Lent Assizes presented him with some of the most reprehensible and shameful crimes that it was ever his displeasure to preside over, worse than anything he had experienced at the Old Bailey.

Due to the large number of cases to be heard, the local newspaper only covered (in detail) the worst of the crimes, all the rest were briefly summarized, name, crime and sentence. So it was with John Gill, who's only mention was that he was guilty of horse stealing and was sentenced to death.

From my own research into public executions at Ilchester, I do know that he was executed on the gallows erected above the entrance to Ilchester Gaol on the 27th April 1825. Four others were executed with him;

Samuel Blanning for highway robbery
Henry York for highway robbery
John Wilmott for horse stealing
Phineas Radford for sheep stealing

I did a search for a month after the execution date but these hangings were not reported in the Western Flying Post.

I did find a report of an execution that took place a week before which had made the news due to the awfulness of the crimes that had been committed. I have included a transcript for you as it mentions the five other condemned men due to be executed the following week, these were John Gill and the four men mentioned above.

It appeared in the Western Flying Post of Monday April 25th 1825.

If nothing else it does give some idea of how John Gill spent his last days.


Execution - On Wednesday last, Joseph Bennett and George Maggs, convicted of an unnatural crime at the last Assizes for this county, were executed on the drop at Ilchester Gaol. Bennett was about 30 years of age, a single man, and a native of Witney in Oxfordshire. Maggs was 22 years old and a native of Radstock. They had, since their condemnation, been attended by the Rev. Mr. Valentine, the chaplain to the Gaol, through whose unwearied attention they appeared to be brought to a sense of their awful situation. About half past seven they attended in the chapel, with the five other unfortunate malefactors, ordered for execution on Wednesday next, where the Morning Service was read, the whole of the prisoners being assembled; after which the Sacrament was administered to the seven criminals in an impressive manner. The Under-Sheriff arrived about nine o'clock, and the prisoners continued in prayer till a short time after eleven, when the necessary preparations having been completed, the solomn procession moved from the chapel, the chaplain repeating part of the burial service. Bennett first ascended the scaffold; he stepped forward, and addressed the immense multitude of spectators, and said, "You are now assembled to witness two poor sinners die for a crime of which we are innocent" and he exhorted them to keep holy the sabbath-day, the breaking of which had led them to their untimely end. Maggs also protested his innocence, and they both said that they hoped God would forgive the two woman who had sworn falsely against them.

After continuing in prayer with the chaplain a short time, the drop fell, and closed the world on them forever.



I hope this is of some help,

Regards,
Arf :)
I am sorry but my emails are not working.

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 November 07 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Arf, for taking so much trouble.  They were all some mothers' sons and their crimes seem negligible compared to what we hear in the news nowadays.

I was fortunate to have a contact that found James GILL in the Wilton Gaol records.  Seems the crime for which he was convicted was 'Stealing a Canvas Bag 15 Sovereigns 6 £1 notes and some silver', so I reckon he was lucky not to have been transported.  I had hoped to discover the circumstances of the theft as I'm trying to find links to 'my' GILLs to take me back another generation and I'm not bothered if I pick up a few 'black sheep'!

James GILL, Coachman of the Defiance on the Ilminster stage of the Exeter/London route died 19 January 1844 and was buried at Yarcombe.  I've been lucky with small obits in The Taunton Courier and The Sherborne Journal but I'm hoping that something more informative may surface in another newspaper as I'm confident he would have been well-known along the Exeter and Ilminster stages.  Should you encounter any GILLs in your 'sorties' in the Western Flying Post, please bear me in mind.

Thanks, once again.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 08 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dee-Jay!

Could you please pass on some  advise on how to access information / records on Ilchester Gaol. Please!! :)

My 3rd great grandmother Lydia Hart was imprisoned there around the 13/8/1827. I contacted the Somerset Archives seeking help with the ref code I have....But not all that helpful.   ???

Also would you know if there are any sites that one can get info?  Please! 

Many thanks!
corsharn :)


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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 08 12:24 GMT (UK) »
As you're based overseas, you will need to obtain the services of someone with experience of this class of documents to search at Taunton RO. 

I assume you obtained the document reference Q/AGi 15/2 from the online List of Prisoners giving these details:
HART Lydia 13/8/1827 aged 16 born Portsmouth
Last abode: Back Street, Bath.

The original register [Description Book] should give you a lot more information, including her description, and the admission registers (if they survive) may also tell you something new. There should be mentions of her in other records [Felon's Book], not forgetting the Sessions papers.

I'm sorry that I don't live close enough to Somerset to undertake this for you.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 February 08 04:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi dee-jay. :)
I will look into finding an experienced researcher. I didn't realize that there would be other documents I could obtaining from these records.....Thank you! :)
 
Yes! You assumed right with the document reference code.  ;D

Many thanks for the advice. ;D

corsharn

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 July 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
You may find a book - West Country stories and sketches of interest (w.h.hamilton rogers). A good chapter on ilchester goal. "Gill and Wilmot for stealing two geldings from John Bond".
It was said that one of the five had property to the value of £700 left to him in the interval between his condemnation and execution.
Gill was tried on 28th March at the Taunton Assizes. Taunton Courier may be a good paper to check for more details. I've been doing some research on George Mitchell who was probably the executioner on that occasion.May try and put it into print some time in the near future. Will check if I have any more on Gill.

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Re: Ilchester Gaol - Trial Reports
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 July 13 23:46 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your continued interest, paullo.

Since  instigating this thread I have discovered via TNA that 'John GILL' was the alias used by Robert BUDDEN, a native of Loders, in respect of whom appeal petitions from Loders and Bridport were presented initially (in error) to Sir James Allan PARK, Knight, one of His Majesty’s Justices of the Court of Common Pleas, and subsequently to the Right Honorable Robert Peel, His Majesty’s Secretary of State for the Home Department.  Appeal refused 19 Apr 1825.

It transpired that BUDDEN's parents were then, and had been for some years, living in the parish of Loders, Dorset.

Record source: Home Office: Criminal Petitions: Series I
The National Archives reference: HO17/117
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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