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TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« on: Friday 23 November 07 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,

I have just had a breakthrough with my KERR family and discovered that George KERR married Ann Caroline TURNER in 1873 over in Croydon.

I am hoping I can trace some of the TURNER family via the censuses and so would love a look up for Ann TURNER b Stepney in 1843....hopefully she will be in the 1851, n1861 and 1871 censuses and not too hard to find as I don't have any parents for her yet!

many thanks
Kiwi

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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 November 07 23:50 GMT (UK) »
On FreeBMD there is a birth ref for Ann Caroline Turner 1843 Dec - Stepney

1851 Census;

James Turner 43 Buckland, Surrey  Beer House Keeper
Ann C Turner 29 West Ham
Emily M Turner 8 Stepney
Ann C Turner 7 Stepney
George J Turner 5
Clara Turner 3 Plaistow
Albert Turner 2 Plaistow, Essex
Alice Turner 6 mo "  "

Mathilda Lifford Sister 25 West Ham
Plus a servant

Balaam St(?)

HO107 p1768 fOLIO 538 pAGE 27

You should know that there is another Ann Turner born 1843 Stepney to parents John And Caroline ...


Will see what happens in later census - maybe i should've copied the other lot!!

Just incase:
John 27
Caroline 27
Julia 10
Ann 8
Caroline 6
Blana 3
John 1
HO107 1544 297 23

Familysearch.org has the following marriage details :

Ann Caroline Turner - George Kerr
8 sEPT 1873 Saint John, Penge, Surrey (M135231)
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 November 07 00:02 GMT (UK) »
In 1861 there is :

Ann Turner Servant to Kezia and Richard Hander
Born Stepney 1843
Living in Poplar

RG9 306 11 p15
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 November 07 01:50 GMT (UK) »
More than likely to be the first one from 1851.

James TURNER married Ann Caroline LIFFORD, Sep qtr 1841, Whitechapel, 2 477.

Ian C
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 November 07 02:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the look ups!

I have been quietly trying to find marriages etc for the children of James and Ann ( having started to look at John and Caroline just in case )...am wondering if James had an occupation in 1851? The TURNERS are a tad hard to trace.

I just found Emily Mary TURNER b 1842 Stepney married Robert CUTTING in 1862- he is a bricklayer in 1881, born Suffolk- so thats one down!

Kind regards

Kiwi


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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 November 07 04:09 GMT (UK) »
James and Ann in 1871
RG10; Piece: 846; Folio: 97; Page: 62
Clifton Road, Woodland Cottages, Croydon, Surrey
James TURNER, head mar 63, Brickmakers labourer, born Surrey, Croydon
Ann C TURNER, wife mar 49, wife, born Essex, Westham
Alice TURNER, dau single 19, born Essex, Rawstone
Daniel TURNER, son single 14, born Essex, Plaistow
Alfred TURNER, son single 8, born Surrey, Croydon
James TURNER, son single 6, born ditto
Amelia CUTTING, grand-dau single 6, born ditto
John LEE, wifes father single 73, Labourer, born Surrey, Streatham ???

Emily Mary TURNER married Robert CUTTING Sep qtr 1862, Croydon, 2a 249

1861 - RG9; Piece: 288; Folio: 138; Page: 22
4 South Street, Limehouse, London
James TURNER, head mar 39, Gardener, born Essex, West Ham
Anne TURNER, wife mar 54, born Surrey, Buckland
Emily TURNER, dau unm 19, born Middlesex, Stepney
George TURNER, son unm 17, Labourer, born Essex, Plaistow
Alice TURNER, dau unm 11, born ditto
Elizabeth TURNER, dau 8, born ditto
Daniel TURNER, son 5, born ditto

Think the enumerator got James and Ann's ages and birthplaces mixed up with this one.

Ian C
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CLAPHAM, PARKINSON, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, FURNER All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
CHALKLEY, OLNEY, Hertfordshire
HARRIS, Essex
EDWARDS, York
NOLAN, BERNEY, Kildare

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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 November 07 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful ! Thank you so much! I have found some strange coincidences - I am related to the CUTTING families of Suffolk and now I see a Robert CUTTING of Suffolk has married into the TURNER tree which is quite a different line to mine!

2 CUTTING sisters married 2 BEWSEY brothers ( Edmund m Hannah and Alfred m Ann Caroline) yet I am unable to find them in 1901 - they seemed to be having kids in Hackney right up to and after the census. I have tried all sorts of tricks but cannot locate them.

I think Emily Amelia CUTTING died over in Bath.

I have found a marriage for Clara TURNER - possibly to George William PAFFORD late 1871 in Croydon, It seems they had a few children but most died. I think i found George again in 1881 with a son in Hampshire ( now a widower) and sadly he died in 1887 over in Guildford...I cannot find a death for his wife, Clara - probably between 1876 and 1881.

If anyone can find her in 1871, I would be most grateful..and if there is a death record, that would be a bonus as I am guessing she married a PAFFORD!

many thanks again for all your help. There are going to be some very surprised KERR descendents when I send them all their maternal line!

Regards
Kiwi

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Re: TURNER, Ann Caroline b 1843, 1851 1861 1871
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 June 20 00:35 BST (UK) »
Hello, yes I believe she married a Pafford ancestor of mine. I have a tree at ancestry if you'd like to compare notes?