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Offline wizz123

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Gypsy Sites
« on: Wednesday 28 November 07 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Was hoping somebody,might know of any Gypsy sites in or around the Southwell area of Nottinghamshire,during the late 1880-1900s.
   My great grandmother Mary Smith b c1881,was born around this area.Her father was called William.
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                               Wizz
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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 November 07 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wizz

Have you asked on the Travelling People board of Rootschat?

Do you have gt granny on the 1881 census or later?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 November 07 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots,

       Didnt see there was a Travelling People Board,ooopps!!!.And lm not sure about my Gt Granny being on any of the census.Thanks for the gentle nudge.

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 November 07 09:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello again

Just having a look for the family - what did William do for a living, any idea?

When/where did Mary marry and to whom?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 November 07 09:56 GMT (UK) »
I haven't found your family yet - but I did find a William H SMITH, law stationer

W H Smith??  Is that the same guy who started the bookshops??  In Nottingham 1891?

RG12 Piece 2694 Folio 8 Page 9

How exciting!

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 November 07 15:56 GMT (UK) »
My Great Grandmother was called Mary Smith,b c1881,her father was called William,and he was classed as a labourer on Marys wedding certificate.
   Mary wed a Ernest Archer in 1914,in Louth Lincolnshire.

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 November 07 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm thanks for that!  :-\

I had a good look this morning and I found a few that could be them but they seemed quite settled - no addresses like "tents" or "roadside" as I have seen before with travelling families.  Then again, they might have been in tied cottages, who knows?

Were any of the SMITHs witnesses at the marriage?  Sometimes you get mum or a sibling's name.

I don't like to admit defeat on SMITHs or JONESes, so anything else you know would help??

lkind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 November 07 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Arranroots, ;D

    Will look on wedding cert now and let you know.

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 November 07 16:58 GMT (UK) »
On the wed cert the wittness :-\ are a Martha Nickolson and Arthur Hall.
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