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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 November 07 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Groan!

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 November 07 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Arranroots!!! wake up  ;D,l have found a brill Gypsy/Traveller site,and think l might just be getting somewere,but please dont hold your breath waiting. :-X

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 November 07 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Whoo hoo!

If you get any more clues from that, let us know please!

I hate to give up!!

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk <br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN<br />HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD<br />GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS<br />WIL: WEBB, SALTER<br />RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS<br />GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY<br />MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD<br />SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON<br />IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)


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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 November 07 09:07 GMT (UK) »
I have sent an e-mail to Southwell Cathedral,to see if they have a system were somebody could check for me regarding the christening of Mary.
    I know waht you mean about not giving up :D

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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 November 07 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wizz

Notts FHS has transcribed St Mary Southwell baptisms and I don't see any likely candidates there.

There were other churches in Southwell ..notably Holy Trinity and both a Wesleyan and Baptist chapel

Notts Archives have Holy Trinity records 1846-1901

http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/home/leisure/archives.htm

There is also their own contact page

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/tanner/page17.html

Can I ask how sure you are she came from the Southwell area?

Heather
Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett
Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray
Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood
Derbyshire: Starbrook
Somerset: Willmott, Elliott
Cork:Driscoll, Murphy
London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman
London Kent:Cheesman
Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 November 07 23:32 GMT (UK) »
There was around this time,a famous "Gypsy Smith" who was travelling the country at that time.He was to become a famous evangelist.

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William Russell Jones
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Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 December 07 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks wr jones and Heather,

            Im just going by family talk that Great Grandma Smith was christened in Southwell Cathedral,and she was from a Gypsy Family.
            l have just found a added problem,and that is l have always gone from Marys Wedding cert about her age.
            On this cert of 1914 her age is 25,which would have made her born in 1889, and has l have said her father William.But l have just found her death,and her date of birth given there is 8th Feb 1894.
             Which one do l take as the truth.?

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 December 07 10:35 GMT (UK) »
What age and occupation is Ernest Archer on marriage certificate? The only Ernest Archer I can find in the Louth area on the 1901 census is aged 21 (occ. Clothiers Assistant), could Mary have lied to show she was nearer her husband's age and that she was over 21 so didn't need parental consent? (although Ernest could have been from elsewhere of course)

Found this Smith family in 1901, age of Mary is out a few years though, she would have been 19/20 on marriage  :-\

RG13/3835 Folio 199 Page 71
Off Stuart? Street (caravan) Castleton Nearer, Rochdale, Lancs

William Smith 44 Wicker Basket ............ Hawkers Lincolns Gainsboro
Hetty 40 Nottinghams Newark
Fanny 19 Nottinghams Mansfield
Isabella 16 Yorkshire Huddersfield
Israel 9 Yorkshire Huddersfield
Mary 5 Nottinghams Mansfield
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Gypsy Sites
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 December 07 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Ernest in 1901 is at the Cavalery Barracks in Manchester and gives his place of birth as South Lincolnshire.Either trying to get away from the fact he was born in the workhouse in Louth,Lincs,or he thought Louth was in South Lincs.
   I think your statement regarding Mary and her age is correct,as she was according to her daeth details born in Feb 1894.
    And l have since found a Mary Smith born in 1894 at Southwell in the BDMs,so am hoping somebody could find out a little more about this Mary Smith for me,(fingers crossed).

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