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Shackamaxon
« on: Thursday 29 November 07 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I have found a few people who arrived on this ship in January 1853 and now I wonder the best way to look for them in Australia?



I know my way around the English records but not the Australian ones online.  Are there any freeBMD sites for South Australia?  How would I find out where the family went to after they arrived?

As you lot are aware, Australia is a big place...................where do you start?

Many thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:11 GMT (UK) »
You could read the useful links posted at the beginning of this forum.  ;D

Some on this forum have the BDM cds at home who can do lookups, there is not anything online for SA (I do not think)    If your family wandered over the border into Victoria then you can be happy as they have much more informative bdm certificates - images which can be downloaded instantly, for a fee.

South Australian birth indexes have the mother's maiden name so you know you have the right family, also gives the place, so you can see their movements.

1853 was in the gold rush times - and a lot of movement between States.

So, post the names and see how you go!   Give as much info as you can, where born, age, parents names, etc.  This can help us identify potential marriages and deaths.

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Re: Shackamaxon
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 November 07 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Christine.

The names that I am looking at are:
Isaac, Margaret & Hannah, Robert, Adam & Matthew Haver/s, aged 58, 45, 10, 25, 15 & 14.
Israel and Maria Rix (nee Chapman) aged 24 and 23.
John & Susan Rowe (nee Chapman) aged 30 and 21.
James and Mary Ann Rump aged 25 and 22.
Wilberry and Ann Skerry aged 22 and 19.
James, Mary, Philip & Ann Wilkinson aged 32, 33, 8 & 6.

All of these people were born/lived in Norfolk and I have information relating to them that could be of use to those in Australia.  I would like to know what became of Israel & Maria Rix as Maria was born in my own village.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 November 07 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello there  having  trouble  locating some of these folk  in  South  Australia

Did they  all come  on  the Shackamaxon  to  South  australia?

The  only  names  I  could  match  up  so far

is  perhaps James and Mary  Rump  was her maiden  name Bentham?

now  Israel RIX  died 20/2/1854 aged 25 no  parents details given  adelaide Book3 page 44

Maria Rix W aged 25  married Robert Burgess S aged 26 on 19/10/1854 at St James Church Blakiston Adelaide Book20 page 140  no  parents given for either party.

it would appear Robert died  because of  this  possible  tie  in

13/10/1856 Maria Burgess aged 28  father James Chapman married James Blight aged 40 at the Wesleyan Cahpel Strathalbyn book28page34

no  children
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 November 07 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tropical J

Yes, they all arrived on that ship, according to the Ships lists site anyway.

Poor Maria, losing her husbands like that!  Could you find anything else about her please?  She came from a very small village in central Norfolk and it is so sad to think about her losing her first husband after travelling all that way from home together.

It seems quite likely that Mary Rump was a Bentham as their daughter was called Amelia and an Amelia Bentham from Norfolk, also went out on the same ship.

Thanks so much. If there are any Norfolk look-ups you need, just ask.

Teddy
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 December 07 05:40 GMT (UK) »
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Isaac, Margaret & Hannah, Robert, Adam & Matthew Haver/s, aged 58, 45, 10, 25, 15 & 14.

Deaths South Australia 1842-1915

HAVERS, Isaac aged 79, 10th April 1870, death place & residence - Clare
Ref: Cla, Book 38, Page 88   No relative recorded in index.

HAVERS, Margaret, widow of deceased husband Isaac Havers, died 9 July 1887, aged 86, at Donnybrook near Clare (place of residence)
Ref: Cla, 164/404

HAVERS, Matthew, relative not recorded, married, died 30 Jun 1912, aged 73 at Clare
ref: Cla, 367/37

HAVERS, Robert, relative not recorded, married, died 20 April 1884 at Clare, aged 59  ref: Clar 137/164

HAVERS, Adam, died aged 13 years, 15 Dec 1874, at Clare, father Adam
ref: Cla, 62/177


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Re: Shackamaxon
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 December 07 06:31 GMT (UK) »
Good one Chris

I  read  the  surname as Isaac  not  Haver/s  I  thought  it  meant  Mattthew's middle  name was Haver/havers  stupid me >:(

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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 December 07 06:32 GMT (UK) »
Marriages South Australia 1842-1916

Adam HAVERS, aged 20 married Anna CLARE aged 19, on 27 Dec 1855 at Clare
Fathers not recorded.
ref: Cla 24/149

Matthew HAVERS, single, 30, married Jane LUGET, 25, single
21 Apr 1871 at St Mark Church, Penwortham
fathers; Isaac HAVERS, Charles LUGET
ref: Cla 87/168  another entry for this marriage too ref: Cla 89/259 same details.

I do not see Robert's marriage in SA, but see his wife and also the deaths of some infants.

Hannah HAVERS, 20,  married James BAKER, 22, 02 Dec 1860 St Mark Penwortham
Fathers- Isaac HAVERS, Jacob BAKER
ref: Cla 44/312 symbol A (I do not recall what the latter means offhand)

Hannah remarried, now known as Annie

Annie BAKER, full age, married Montague Washington Napene DEMPSEY, full age, at St Mark Penwortham, ref: Cla 55/32
fathers: Isaac HAVERS, Montague DEMPSEY

back to the death cd

wife of Robert
HAVERS, Johanna, died 7 Jul 1913, aged 87, at Clare, widow of Robert HAVERS
ref: Cla 375/473

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Re: Shackamaxon
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 December 07 06:33 GMT (UK) »
Good one Chris

I  read  the  surname as Isaac  not  Haver/s  I  thought  it  meant  Mattthew's middle  name was Haver/havers  stupid me >:(

kind regards JEnn 8)

I thought that is what happened! I first thought the same  :D you can do the births, I'm feeling a little jaded from a late night last night, typing is a bit tedious - if only I was allowed to copy and paste  ::)
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