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Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« on: Sunday 02 December 07 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone help. I am trying to find more information on the parents of Isabella Clark born 22 Jan 1831 in Lonmay. They are James Clark born abt 1800 in Lonmay and Isabella Lawrance b.abt 1807-1811 in Lonmay. I am looking for DOB, marriage dates, DOD, but my searches have proved fruitless. Thanks

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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 December 07 21:56 GMT (UK) »
hi pal,

james clark married isabel laurence 21/4/1827 lonmay


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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Two possible births for James; one in 1799 - father James, and another 1800 - father William. Think it'll need to be the death certificate (or naming patterns) that'll help you out.

No births/christenings for an Isabella/Isabel Laurence/Lawrence in Lonmay at that time. However, there are several other children with the same surname, all to father Alexander.

I can't understand why the mother's name wasn't recorded! >:(

Hope this helps.

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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:16 GMT (UK) »
hi pal,

1841 census- lonmay

james...age 40..miller
isabella...age 30
james...age 13
john...age 12
isabella...age 10
george...age 10
helenora...age 8
jane...age 6
joseph...age 4
william...age 4
rebecca...age 2
mary..age 9 months
rebecca lawrence...age 18

1851 census- mill of cremonmogate, lonmay

james...age 51...corn miller
isabella...age 44
eleanor...age 17
jane..age 15
james...age 13
joseph...age 13
rebecca...age 11
mary..age 9
robert...age 5
christian...age 2...born 26/8/1848


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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:23 GMT (UK) »
good news pal,

they both made it past 1855!!

1861 census- mill of cremonmogate

james...age 61...miller & farmer
isabella...age 54
joseph...age 23...miller
isabella...age 21...domestic servant
christian...age 12
ellenora...age 8...grand-daughter


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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:27 GMT (UK) »
hi pal,

cannot see them in 1871 so you can search for a death cert for them both between 1861-1871.

1871 census- house on dumpston(6), longside

joseph...age 31..miller


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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:30 GMT (UK) »
hi pal,

rebecca laurence christened 1/5/1820, lonmay, daughter of john.

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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 December 07 22:51 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Lookup request for James Clark and Isabella Lawrance
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 December 07 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello Roy,

Lots of great information has been provided but, as you apparently hadn't found the marriage, I hope you don't mind if I make a couple of suggestions.

The search on SP is very unforgiving so it's a good idea to use wildcards.  For instance - Clark might appear as (say) Clarke; James as Jas; Isabella as Isobel, Isabel etc; Lawrance as Lawrence, Laurence etc ...
So a search for Clark*, Ja*s, La*r*nce, Is*bel* is a good starting point.  And it gets only one match ...

But it's always worth checking out the IGI first - not only is it free but they combine many (though not all) possible spellings.  So, even if you search for a marriage of James CLARK & Isabella LAWRANCE, the right one comes up:
James CLARK & Isabel LAURANCE, 21 Apr 1827, Lonmay
There's also a submitted entry for the marriage (though it has the wrong date) and the death of James; the death is given as 20 Mar 1872 which might be a good pointer.

A search in the IGI for children of James & Isabel (James Clark in the father boxes, Isabel Laurance in the mother boxes, select region British Isles) brings up only Christian CLARK b 26 Aug, bap 26 Sep 1848, Lonmay.  But if you then click on the batch number and try various things e.g. just putting James Clark in the father boxes, you get a whole long list of children of James (obviously mothers were irrelevant!) as follows:
*James CLARK bap 22 Feb 1828
*John CLARK bap 20 Jun 1829
*Isabella CLARK bap 23 Feb 1831
*Elenora CLARK bap 9 Mar 1834
*Jean CLARK bap 5 Oct 1835
*Joseph CLARK bap 11 Jun 1837
*William CLARK bap 11 Jun 1837
*Rebecca CLARK bap 2 Dec 1838
*Mary CLARK bap 20 Sep 1840
*Robert CLARK bap 31 Aug 1845
*Christian CLARK b 26 Aug, bap 26 Sep 1848
*Margaret Forbes CLARK b 4 Feb, bap 5 Oct 1850

And, of course, all of the Aberdeen-shire 1841 census and most of the 1851 are on FreeCEN.

Best regards,

JAP
PS: A free search on SP finds that a James CLARK age 72 died in 1872 - don't know what district (not Lonmay)