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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #171 on: Friday 02 January 09 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Cornish-Bill.
I am familiar with the data you quote.
Nicholas was buried St Mewan 11 Aug 1846 aged 47.Jane/Jennifer was at Bucklers in 1851 with most of her children except Maria who was buried 9 Aug 1843 at St Mewan,likewise son William was buried 7 March 1849.
Son John Hammer Harry,aged 14 in 1841 is my great grandfather and came to Australia.He arrived Melbourne Feb 1854 on "Blanche Moore.
In 1861 Jane/Jennifer was at Brays Place aged 58 with son Henry aged 16.Henry married Elizabeth Hancock in 1874.
I do not know what became of my John Hammer Harry between 1851 and leaving for Australia.
Jane Jnr aged 20 in 1851,was buried 13 Dec 1851 (after the Census).
Nicholas Jnr married 1856 Elizabeth Skinner (Tonkin).

Do you happen to know anything about the locations where they lived or further details of the family ?
I found earlier generations in the vacinity of St Kew.

Thank you for your interest.
Wyatt and Wood of Glossop, Derbyshire. Longstaff of Bishop Auckland,Durham. Harry of St Austell and St Kew,Cornwall. Charters of County Antrim.Knight of Warwickshire.Hendy of Ballyedmonduff.

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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #172 on: Saturday 03 January 09 17:08 GMT (UK) »
sorry no idea other than not in Cornwall 1861 census

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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #173 on: Tuesday 06 January 09 06:22 GMT (UK) »

I spent some time yesterday transcribing the 1763 Will of John Harry gentleman.It mentions his wife Margaret and a son Richard.It speaks of his estate in Lower Am------ (can't read),also looks like John Webbers tenement.
Can't be sure but I think this John Harry married 25.7.1725 St Mabyn,Mrs Margaret Hamley.I think she might have been a widow.They had children Jane 1727,Diana 1728 John 1730,William 1732,Elizabeth 1735 and Richard 1740.Only Richard is mentioned in the Will.


I wonder if this is Margaret Hamley's maiden name ...

Marriage:
Robert Hamley & Margaret Hewet 14 Aug 1702 , Lanviet

deb

Ps could you post a section of the will that you can't transcribe ... ie: the part about the estate ...lower Am ??


Rex/Deb, could the bottom of this post be the family of Margaret Hamly?  From IGI.  She would have been 17 and a half when she married John Harry on 25Jul1725 St Mabyn.  Richard Harry 1740 St Mabyn would have married Ann Brown 18Jul1742 - 24Jan1827 on 14Jun1768 in St Kew.  First child Jane Harry 7Jun1769 St Kew would have married William Boscombe 9Sep1770 St Breock (Died around June 1847) on 27Dec1791 in St Kew.  Jane Boscombe (nee Harry) died around Mar 1847.  They were in the 1841 census together in St Breock at age 70.

John Harry and Margaret Hamly children = Jane Harry 1727, Diana Harry 1728, John Harry 1730, William Harry 1732, Elizabeth Harry 1735, Richard Harry 1740.  Richard Harry 1740 and Ann Brown Children = Jane Harry 1769, Mary Harry 1770, Ann Harry 1772, John Harry 1775, Margaret Harry 1777, William Harry 1779.  William Boscombe 1770 and Jane Harry 1769 children = William Harry Boscombe 21Sep1794 - 1858 St Kew, Ann Boscombe 17Jul1796 St Kew, Jenny Boscombe 25Mar1798 St Kew, John Boscumbe 25May1800 St Kew-Mar1872St Kew, Catherine Boscombe 2May1802St Kew, Richard Boscombe 28Jul1805 St Kew, Dennet Boscombe 12Jul1807 St Kew, Elizabeth Boscombe 1809 St Kew and maybe Mary Boscombe 1792.

You mentioned that Ann Brown 1742 was likely the daughter of Samuel Brown and Jane Pain who were married 30Sep1741 St Kew. 

William Boscombe 1770 was the Son of William Buscombe 26Feb1740 St Breock and Dennet Stone c. 1745 m. 7Oct1764 St Breock.

IGI of Margaret Hamly
Father
William Hamly
Christening:  03 MAY 1670  Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
Marriage:  20 FEB 1693  St Beock, , Cornwall, England
Burial:  14 JUN 1711  Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
 
Paternal GrandFather:   John Hamly
Paternal GrandMother:   Kathryn Brook   
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Mother
Rebecca Dingley
Birth:  About 1673  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England   
Marriage:  20 FEB 1693  St Beock, , Cornwall, England   
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 Siblings
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1.   John Hamly
Birth:  About 1695  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England 
Death:  03 JUN 1777   
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2.   Giles Hamly (Male)
Birth:  About 1697  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
Burial:  21 SEP 1738   
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3.   Rebecca Hamly
Christening:  25 MAR 1700  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
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4.   Thomas Hamly
Christening:  23 FEB 1701  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
Death:  21 APR 1719
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5.   Joseph Hamly   
Christening:  22 APR 1703  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
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6.   Alexander Hamly
Christening:  09 FEB 1705  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
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7.   Catherine Hamly Pedigree     
Christening:  01 FEB 1707  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
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8.   Margaret Hamly
Christening:  05 JAN 1708  Of, Saint Mabyn, Cornwall, England
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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #174 on: Wednesday 07 January 09 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Bill
I think that there is strong evidence,that the Will dated 1763,relates to the St Mabyn marriage 25 Jul 1725 of John Harry of St Kew,a gentleman and Mrs Margaret Haml(e)y.I have suggested that she might be a widow or previously married.However her title might simply indicate that she is a woman of substance ie marrying a gentleman.
I think we can assume he must have died c1763.
Margaret is likely to have been born c1708,youngest daughter of William Hamly and Rebecca Dingley.She would have been only 16 or 17 when she married John Harry,but this is quite possible.

The first child of John and Margaret,Jane b1727 St Kew,looks to have married William Painter 21 Aug 1751 St Mabyn.
Their son John 1730 St Mabyn may have married Mary Pawl(e)y 31 Jul 1750.I recall reference to Pawly's tenement.
I think we now agree that their son Richard 1740 St Mabyn married 14 Jun 1768 St Kew,Ann Brown.
A guess only but their daughter Elizabeth 1735 St Mabyn may have married 11 Jun 1753 Egloshayle,Thomas Ford.

Reverting to Richard Harry and Ann Lobb, I think their first son may have married Margaret/Marjory Cooke 6 Apr 1774 Egloshayle.
Theie daughter Catherine 1757 may have married 12 Oct 1776 St Breock,John Heard.

Please let me know if I am missing the point.Your comments will be appreciated. :P
Wyatt and Wood of Glossop, Derbyshire. Longstaff of Bishop Auckland,Durham. Harry of St Austell and St Kew,Cornwall. Charters of County Antrim.Knight of Warwickshire.Hendy of Ballyedmonduff.


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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #175 on: Sunday 13 September 09 05:42 BST (UK) »
Hello
I have a marriage certificate for a John Treloar and Mary Ann/nee James in 1854 Forest Creek Melbourne Australia  and a witness was Nicholas Harry,

I have found a Harry Family in South Australia where the Treloar family settled after they arrived in 1847
so i am presuming this Nicholas Harry who signed the marriage certificate could be part of the Harry family from South Australia

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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #176 on: Sunday 13 September 09 09:04 BST (UK) »
Sorry but I am unaware of any of my Harry family having a connection with South Australia.
The names you mention do not ring a bell.
I did have a connection through marriage (Longsaff) at Forest Creek at that time but not Harry.My large family of Harry were at El Dorado via Beechworth.
I would love to think we have a connection.
Wyatt and Wood of Glossop, Derbyshire. Longstaff of Bishop Auckland,Durham. Harry of St Austell and St Kew,Cornwall. Charters of County Antrim.Knight of Warwickshire.Hendy of Ballyedmonduff.

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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #177 on: Sunday 13 September 09 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I do not know if the Nicholas Harry who was a witness at John Treloar and Mary Ann James wedding was from South Australia, he obviously was in Forest Creek at the time, would love to find where he was from,

but i read the newspaper story on Roots Chat about William Treloar  from South Australia who is John Treloar's Father and on the next page it had a story about a  fire and i think it mentioned a Thomas Harry,

Best of Luck with your research
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Re: Nicholas HARRY bC1834 St Stephen in Brannel
« Reply #178 on: Monday 14 September 09 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hello to researchers of Nicholas Harry

I have just found a will & probate reords for a Nicholas Harry in Victoria Australia who died 1876  he was a mine manager  his wife was Mary Harvey he left an annuity of 20pounds for life to his uncle Samuel Harry of i think it is "Gunwalloe" near Helston Cornwall a farmer
i thought i would add this in case any of you might have a connection
i have a copy of the will if anyone would like it,
Regards Patricia (angel24)