Fletcher Gypsy family (PLEASE CLOSE LOOKUP, THANKS)

[Bryant]

Looking for the family seen below in any census prior to 1881 please..........or Sarah Davis born Shropshire......."wife" of Eli Fletcher as per daughter's birth cert also seen below

1901 Census
Two Bridges, East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eli Fletcher   head   55   tin pan maker      not known
Sarah   "   wife   50            not known
James   "   son   23 (unm) tin pan maker      Glos, East Dean
Charles   "   "   21    "          Monmouth
Sarah   "   daur   19            Glos East Dean
Samuel   "   son   18            "
Selia   "   daur   15            "
Mary Ann   "   "   13            "
William   "   son   11            "
John   "   "   9            "
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1891
Churchway, East Dean........RG12/2005 folio 21 page 36
Eli Fletcher   head   43   Tin Ware Maker      London
Clara   "   wife   40            Shropshire
Eli   "   son   20   General Labourer      Lydney
Letitia   "   daur   17            East Dean
Elizabeth   "   "   15            "
Sarah   "   "   14            "
James   "   son   11            "
Charles   "   "   9            "
Samuel   "   "   7            "
Cecilia   "   daur   6            "
Mary Ann   "   "   3            "
Alice   "   "   6 months          "
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1881
Gipsy Tent, West Dean, Glos
Eli Fletcher   head   34   tin plate worker      London, Middx
Sarah   "   wife   30             Hanway, Shropshire
Emily   "   daur   13            East Dean, Glos
Eli   "   son   9            West Dean, Glos   
Hostin   "   "   7            "
Leticia   "   daur   5            "
Elizabeth   "   daur   3            East Dean, Glos
Jami   "   son   1            "   "
Sarah   "   daur   1            "   "
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Letitia Fletcher was born at Green Bottom, East Dean (Newnham R.D) on the 17th Jan 1875 (I have birth cert)........her father is Eli Fletcher and her mother is Sarah Fletcher (formerly Davis)
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1877
Daniel Butler
1877 Mar 21 Term Expired / Church / Single Nat Bicester Known to P Constable of Bourton. Has been [illegible] for encamping out on highway Address of friends N/K Gipsies

1874
Eli Fletcher / N F Residence / Hawker / Age 27 / 5'4" / brown hair / brown eyes / oval visage / fresh complexion / Other marks - Scar on back of neck, bridge of nose + on right thigh. Lost one [illegible] front tooth. Prisoner No 7729 / Stealing one horse the property of James Halford at St. Briavels on 4/7/1874. / C J Palmer Esq. / Assises 1 / 8 Aug 1874 Summer / Acquitted of Horse Stealing 1874 Aug 11 / Church / Mar 3 East Dean Known to PC Martin 5 years nothing else [illegible] - Wife Sarah Fletcher Cinderford Hill Woodside Glos.

1871
Daniel Butler / No fixed Residence / Tinker / Age 20 / 5'8" / brown hair / Light grey eyes / fresh complexion / other marks - 2 burn scars on l forearm + 1 on l Knee. Mole on L shoulder blade, 1 left side of Neck. / Prisoner No 180 / Stealing at Little Rissington 28 pounds weight of straw, property of William Cary Smith / Rev E F Witts R N Byass Esq P Thursby Esq / Assises Q 18.3.1871 / Guilty / 1 days Hard Labour

[deb usa]

Hi

I wonder if this could be Sarah Davis wife of Eli Fletcher

1861
Tidenham Gloucester
list of people who slept in a tent
Letisha Davies head unm 28 Tin carrier b Hereford
Charles Davies brother unm 25 tin plate worker b Gloucester
Sarah Davies niece unm 10 Richards castle, Shropshire

will look for more

deb

[Bryant]

Thankyou Deb

The Sarah you found looks good to me..........the next question is....why can't I see her with my census provider?............£40 something a year for the 1841/1861 & 1871, the 1841 is brilliant and the transcribers deserve medals, the other two + a few add ons are poor

Is their anyone else in tents around them in 1861 please?

Merry Christmas 
Bryant

[bearkat]

Not the family you're looking for but found this family living in a tent in Dean Road, East Dean in 1871

RG10/2601 Folio 17 Page 25
Sarah SMITH married, head, aged 56, a hawker born Devizes, Wiltshire
(no sign of husband - probably out Hawking)
son Eliza aged 16 born West Dean
daughter Mary 22 born Ross Herefordshire - all Hawkers
grandaughter Uriah SMITH aged 2 born West Dean

There is an odd flourish before the names Eliza & Uriah    looks like qr or gr

[Bryant]

Thankyou bearkat

The Smith's are good

If true they had a sense of humour.........grandaughter URIAH

"Normally" the families tend to congregate together..........not on census day however!

Merry Christmas 
Bryant

[deb usa]

Hi Bryant

I rechecked the 1861 and Sarah and her aunt and uncle are the only ones in tents in the Hamlet ....

I will try and follow them . A Question ~ Where does daniel Butler fit into the scheme of things?

i am not sure why you cannot spot them with you census provider 

deb

[deb usa]

Hi Bryant

I am still searching ...no luck as yet ... did you notice in 1881 when Eli and sarah were living in Gypsy Tents , on the next page were ... Charles Davis 44 and Leticia  Davis, 40 , his sister . Both still unmarried.

Both of their ages are off a little ...LOL ...now he is older than her , but place of birth still the same. If we could find them in 1871 ...I am sure we will find Sarah and Eli .

deb

[Bryant]

deb

My grandmother.........
Leah Fletcher b.1903?........father Austin (Hootin/Hostin) Fletcher, mother Elizabeth Butler.............Leah had a brother also named Austin who died in 1953 as Austin Fletcher.....born Austin Butler in Dec 1896, mother Elizabeth Butler on cert (no father) but Austin Butler Fletcher was christened in 1897....father Austin Fletcher, mother Elizabeth Butler

Austin Fletcher..........father Eli Fletcher, mother Sarah Davis (Davies)
Elizabeth Butler.........father Matthew Butler,

So.........it appears Matthew Butler (god bless his antics) is my gr gr grandfather?


Bryant

[deb usa]

hi Bryant

I am trying to wrap my brain around this ...

I am not sure if you need this ...but I was looking for Hostin/austin Fletcher b 1876 and came upon this family ...maybe related to Sarah Davis/Davies = Eli Fletcher...

Herefordshire, Welsh Newton
Newton Commons,
tents
Joseph Davies head mar 26 tin plate worker b Gloucester
Emily wife mar 26 b Forest of Dean
Emily dau 5                "
Georgina dau 3          "
Hostin son 11 months   "
also with them are the Burton family ...basket makers and a vistor, Dinah Lea

will keep on looking

deb