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Offline David-G

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 29 June 09 22:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam,

Thanks for your reply. Margaret Blackadder was my 4 x Gt Grandmother so I am very keen to find out more.

I have no information about her parents or siblings, but I know she married James Sinclair and they had at least 9 children born between 1804 and 1831 in St Ninians, Stirling.

I can't see any connection to Falkirk, but I'd like to speak to you more.

Regards

David

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #19 on: Friday 10 July 09 14:11 BST (UK) »
Here's some more data on Blackadder of the Falkirk area who married into my RENNIE line ...

Thomas Blackadder  (John, William) was born on 10 Jul 1801 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. He died on 3 Jan 1866 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Thomas married Helen Bell  on 9 Dec 1821 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. They had the following child : Mary Blackadder  was born on 4 Aug 1826 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.
Mary married William Rennie  son of Michael Bruce Rennie {Blacksmith] and Jean Taylor on 17 Jun 1849 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. William was christened on 13 Feb 1825 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. They had the following children: Helen Rennie  was born on 6 May 1850 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Jane Rennie  was born on 8 May 1852 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. William Rennie  was born on 13 Jul 1854 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Thomas Blackadder Rennie  was born on 21 Feb 1857 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.  Mary Rennie  was born on 9 Sep 1860 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Michael Bruce Rennie [Grate Fitter]  was born on 8 Sep 1861. John Blackadder Rennie  was born on 29 Nov 1864 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Andrew Rennie  was born on 28 Nov 1867 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Mary Blackadder Rennie  was born on 3 Mar 1871 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

Michael Bruce Rennie [Grate Fitter]  (Mary Blackadder, Thomas, John, William) was born on 8 Sep 1861 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Michael married Annie Miller [Twin][Widow]  daughter of Archiebald Miller [Hammerman] and Margaret Yorkston on 4 Jun 1889 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Annie was born on 30 Jan 1859 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. They had the following children:Mary Blackadder Rennie  was born in 1891 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. William Rennie [Grocer]  was born on 28 May 1893.

William Rennie [Grocer]  (Michael Bruce Rennie, Mary Blackadder, Thomas, John, William) was born on 28 May 1893 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. William married Catherine Forsyth  daughter of Alexander Forsyth and Catherine Paterson on 3 Jan 1921 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Catherine was born on 27 May 1894 in Tillicoultry, Clackmannan, Scotland. They had the following child: Catherine Paterson Rennie  was born in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. Catherine married James Adams Mackay Meikle  on 22 Apr 1947 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. James was born on 12 Aug 1921 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. He died on 13 Jan 1962 in Malinda, Kenya, Africa.

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
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Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #20 on: Friday 10 July 09 15:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the Blackadder information you posted, it has already been added to my tree

Regards
Pam


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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 10 July 09 16:36 BST (UK) »
Here is more earlier data,
First Generation

   1.   William Blackadder  was born on 23 Mar 1737 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

William married Jean Burgess  about 1770 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

They had the following children:

+   2   M   i.   John Blackadder  was born in 1770.

+   3   M   ii.   James Blackadder  was born in 1778.


Second Generation

   2.   John Blackadder  (William) was born in 1770 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

John married Mary Kerr  on 11 Apr 1794 in Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland.

They had the following children:

+   4   M   i.   Thomas Blackadder  was born on 10 Jul 1801. He died on 3 Jan 1866.

   3.   James Blackadder  (William) was born in 1778 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

James married Margaret (Carr) Kerr  on 21 May 1809 in Stirling, Stirling, Scotland .

They had the following children:

+   5   M   i.   William Blackadder  was born on 26 Mar 1810. He died on 15 Jan 1859.


Third Generation

   4.   Thomas Blackadder  (John, William) was born on 10 Jul 1801 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. He died on 3 Jan 1866 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

Thomas married Helen Bell  on 9 Dec 1821 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.

They had the following children:

+   6   F   i.   Mary Blackadder  was born on 4 Aug 1826.

   5.   William Blackadder  (James, William) was born on 26 Mar 1810 in Stirling, Stirling, Scotland . He died on 15 Jan 1859 in Sydney, NSW, Australia.


William married Anne Poole  on 30 Dec 1833 in Sydney, NSW, Australia.

They had the following children:

+   7   M   i.   James Blackadder  was born on 26 Feb 1840.


Fourth Generation

   6.   Mary Blackadder  (Thomas, John, William) was born on 4 Aug 1826 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.

Mary married William Rennie  son of Michael Bruce Rennie {Blacksmith] and Jean Taylor on 17 Jun 1849 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland. William was christened on 13 Feb 1825 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

They had the following children:

   8   F   i.   Helen Rennie  was born on 6 May 1850 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   9   F   ii.   Jane Rennie  was born on 8 May 1852 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   10   M   iii.   William Rennie  was born on 13 Jul 1854 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   11   M   iv.   Thomas Blackadder Rennie  was born on 21 Feb 1857 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   12   F   v.   Mary Rennie  was born on 9 Sep 1860 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   13   M   vi.   Michael Bruce Rennie [Grate Fitter]  was born on 8 Sep 1861 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.
Michael married Annie Miller [Twin][Widow]  daughter of Archiebald Miller [Hammerman] and Margaret Yorkston on 4 Jun 1889 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Annie was born on 30 Jan 1859 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.

   14   M   vii.   John Blackadder Rennie  was born on 29 Nov 1864 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   15   M   viii.   Andrew Rennie  was born on 28 Nov 1867 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   16   F   ix.   Mary Blackadder Rennie  was born on 3 Mar 1871 in Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland.

   7.   James Blackadder  (William, James, William) was born on 26 Feb 1840 in Morpeth, NSW, Australia.

James married Sarah Waldon  on 6 Nov 1869 in Coldstream River, NSW, Australia.

They had the following children:

   17   M   i.   George Charles Blackadder  was born on 20 Dec 1874 in Grafton, NSW, Australia. He died on 3 Feb 1937 in Grafton, NSW, Australia.

George married Thurza Ann Ruth Taylor  on 18 Mar 1902 in Grafton, NSW, Australia.

Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 10 July 09 19:27 BST (UK) »
Hi DDJJake

This is what I suspected, but you have James Blackadder  b 1778 married to Margaret (Carr) Kerr as the parents of William Blackadder b 26 Mar 1810, who on the 1841 was living with his father James b abt 1765 and  his sister Jean, on the1851 census William was a nailer and was living with his sister Jean b abt 1802 they also had a brother James Blackadder b abt 1811 and a sister Agnes who was the informant on her brother William's death cert

I know this because I have all their death certs, but their parents on all of them were James Blackadder and Agnes Robertson, I thought initially that James had perhaps married twice and maybe that is in fact the case, there is no record of a marriage for James Blackadder and Agnes Robertson nor any children recorded as born to them

When I first found the death cert for James Blackadder I thought perhaps the informant had got the name of his mother wrong but when I found the next two DCs giving the same mother's name I felt they must be correct

My email address is (*) if you would like a copy of the aforementioned DCs get back to me this way and I will send them on

Look forward to hearing from you

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Pam

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 10 July 09 20:56 BST (UK) »
Pam,
Unfortunately for your hypothesis .....
   5.   William Blackadder  (James, William) was born on 26 Mar 1810 in Stirling, Stirling, Scotland . He died on 15 Jan 1859 in Sydney, NSW, Australia.
William married Anne Poole  on 30 Dec 1833 in Sydney, NSW, Australia.
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #24 on: Friday 10 July 09 21:11 BST (UK) »
In relation to this information:

Here is more earlier data,
First Generation

   1.   William Blackadder  was born on 23 Mar 1737 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

William married Jean Burgess  about 1770 in St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland.

They had the following children:

+   2   M   i.   John Blackadder  was born in 1770.

+   3   M   ii.   James Blackadder  was born in 1778.



My ancestor was Margaret Blackadder, born c1776 in St Ninians. Do you have any information that she could have been a sister to John and James? Or information that she was NOT related?

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David

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 11 July 09 11:11 BST (UK) »
Hi david-G

An 1841 Census for St Ninians transcribed from 'freecen' .....
SINCLAIR   James   M   64   Flour Miller    born Stirlingshire       
BLACKADDER   Margt   F   45    born Stirlingshire       
SINCLAIR   Alexr   M   20   Nailer  born Stirlingshire       
SINCLAIR   James   M   12   Apprentice Nailer  born Stirlingshire       
SINCLAIR   John   M   10   born Stirlingshire     

This Margaret Blackadder was thus c. 49 or 48 or 47 or 46 or 45 and born between c. 1792 and 1796 if approximate ages to the nearer 5 or 0 was (as normally) employed by the Census taker.

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Blackadder in Falkirk.
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 11 July 09 11:31 BST (UK) »
Indeed. Typing error on tree. My manual records of course have dob as 1796. I wonder if there is a link with the Blackadders of St Ninians that you mentioned. I've done a lot of digging, but without success.

David