Lookup Request - John Evans, Llanrhidian Higher

[osprey]

just a few chapels in the area 

www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llanrhidian/Chapels.html

first port of call for the records the archives in Swansea

www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=406

The Glamorgan Family History Society might be worth checking out.

 

[Columbo]

If Evan was born in Loughor around 1837 but brought up with a different family in the area (eg. probably either Loughor or Llanrhidian parish), then surely he would show up on the 1841 census in one of the local parishes but there is no sign of him. What would the explanation be for this - is there a possibility he had a different surname and changed it ? Or is he there somewhere but perhaps there's a transcription error on the census ? 

[osprey]

as family relationships are not shown on the 1841 census, if he's with another family, there is no way of knowing. There are also no places of birth given, only in county or not in county. If, say, both his parents had died before the census, and he's with a relative with the same surname, he would appear to be one of their children. There is no differentiation. If he's enumerated with a different surname, he would be totally unidentifiable. And there's always the possibility, he's not on the census at all. It happens!

[Columbo]

Thanks. Some of the things I plan on investigating before I finally give up!!

1. The chapel records.
2. Look for a record of Evan's father John Evans on one of the census records in the area. I've found a few labourers called John Evans of the right sort of age.
3. Look for an Evan of any surname born around 1837 in the area.

I am still hoping there is something in the chapel or census records of the Loughor or Three Crosses area around Cefnstyllell that will shed some light on this as I believe there is something in the story that he may have been brought up by a family in that area. However, the lack of a birth record may mean I have to give up. 

[osprey]

Just one little thing, the road name is Cefnstylle. I think the road name changed in the late sixties or early seventies and was Wern before that, Banc y Cwm was formerly the part at the bottom (north) just off the Gowerton to Penclawdd road.

[Columbo]

I have just found out that there is something called Bastardy Bonds which could be a source of information of parents of illigitimate children. However I have no idea where to look. Any advice appreciated to help in my search for the parents of Evan Evans born 1837. Thanks

[Columbo]

The first record of Evan I have found is of him as a servant on the 1851 census aged 14 with the Eaton family. However, on the 1841 census when Evan would have been aged 4, there is a John Eaton aged 4 living in the same household - and I cannot find a record of Evan Evans anywhere. Could John Eaton and Evan Evans be the same person ? Please could someone provide me with a second opinion. Thanks.

[armek1]

Hi Columbo,

According to my tree, the John EATON that you've found aged 4 in 1841, is recorded in the 1851 census residing with his grandparents Rowland and Elizabeth BEVAN at Horton, Penrice - still named John EATON. I think my information is correct but, as always, there is the possibility that I've got the wrong lad.

Regards,
Lee.

[Columbo]

Thanks. I think you're probably right.