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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 06 January 08 00:18 GMT (UK) »


I wasn't sure about this .... but now you've mentioned it ... !

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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 January 08 01:50 GMT (UK) »
Shaun and Annie,
Incredible!  While I've been off the premises for some considerable time, you two have been having a MOST impressive dialogue.  My friend across the road is going to be absolutely delighted, and no, I'm not going to say I wish it all belonged to me!  I'm quite satisfied with what I've so far discovered about my own family...
Thanks so much for all this on the thread here, and also, Shaun, for the e-mails with attachments you've sent me.
Quite a family, indeed...
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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 06 January 08 01:57 GMT (UK) »
Good ! .... I'm glad you're happy !!

Annie  :)

Edit .... Just as an aside .... I haven't been able to find a Helen born 1903 !

She hasn't been mentioned anywhere else other than Shaun's find at the beginning ..... as far as I can see !!
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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 06 January 08 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Very happy, Annie, thanks!
...and Shaun, can I ask you about post 13 on here, where you give details of that 1845 marriage in Calcutta.  Does "parents name FRASER" for the bride Helen Davidson PATON refer to her actual surname, with "PATON" a third forename; or is "FRASER" her father's forename...?
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I can't imagine that she'd have already been married to someone called PATON by the time she re-married, still at the tender age of 19

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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 06 January 08 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Keith,

I'm fairly certain that "parents name Fraser"  in that 1845 transcription refers to  Alexander Wallace's father ( i.e. Fraser Wallace).

I just did a search for the same marriage by reference to Helen Davidson Paton and the result shows a parents' name of Charles so presumably her father was Charles Paton. http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/FullDisplay.aspx?RecordId=014-000212142
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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 06 January 08 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Marriage for Lt Charles Paton, 23rd N.I. - 15 April 1820 in Calcutta - to Christian Henderson

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/FullDisplay.aspx?RecordId=014-000212130

(Modified with more detail as the URL doesn't seem to work)
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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 January 08 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Shaun,
Many thanks again for clarifying that for me.  And I don't think I thanked you for both those e-mails with attachments re WALLACE obituaries that you sent yesterday (or possibly in the early hours of this morning - can't quite work out where Annie is in relation to GMT, but I think her hours were more sociable ones when she was pulling rabbits out of a hat with you earlier in this thread...)
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NB This Calcutta thing goes back much earlier than I imagined - I think I was half hoping that a Scottish baptism or marriage for the WALLACE's or the other families they were marrying into might appear sooner rather than later (or at least, the other way round, chronologically speaking with the genealogy!)

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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 23:17 GMT (UK) »
As a small boy, my late father (1900-1991) met his great-grandmother Helen Davidson (Paton) Wallace (1825-1913) in 1908 at Chatham, Kent. She was a tiny snow white-haired lady in black who greeted him: "I put my hand upon your head; and say, God bless you! God bless you!" Much that follows was gathered through the kindness of an English cousin, and of two Boston colleagues; and from FIBIS, the IOR section of the British Library site, and ScotlandsPeople, also Ancestry census images.

Charles Paton's wife Christian Henderson (1802-1827, m. Calcutta 1820) was his first cousin. His parents were William Paton & Elizabeth Wilson; hers, Alexander & Christian (Paton) Henderson. William Paton (1759-1795) & Christian (Paton) Henderson (1771-1854) were children of William Paton (d. 1810) & Christian Scott (ca. 1730-1824) of Lonmay/Rathen, Aberdeenshire (near Fraserburgh and Peterhead). See BURKE'S LANDED GENTRY, 8th ed. (1894), pp. 2254-55, down to both Charles Paton and Christian Henderson.

Helen Davidson Paton was named for a cousin--Helen Eliza (Paton) Davidson (1802-1852), w. of Thomas Reid Davidson (d. 1851), later British resident at Nagpur. Mrs. Davidson was dau. of Col. John Paton (1763-1825, another son of William & Christian [Scott] Paton) and w. Mary Forbes (her sister Jane [Forbes] Ryan [later Mills] was the sponsor at Jane Ryan Paton's christening at Ettrick).

Alexander Wallace, husband of Helen Davidson Paton, b. ca. 1814; Helen's 1913 obituary calls him "of Peterhead, later of Calcutta." His father Fraser Wallace was chr. Strichen, Aberdeenshire, 1785, and m. Jean Walker there 1808. Wonder if some of them were Scottish Anglicans? I don't see them in available Ch. of Scotland OPRs. Fraser Wallace was son of Alexander Wallace & Margaret Gray (m. Strichen 1784, all from OPRs at ScotlandsPeople, also IGI). "Alexander Wallace, merchant of Calcutta, grandson of Alexander Wallace, farmer in Mormond, 1847" (Services of Heirs, Scottish [Edinburgh], 1847) (David Dobson, THE SCOTS OVERSEAS: EMIGRANTS AND ADVENTURERS FROM ABERDEEN AND NORTH EAST SCOTLAND [Pt. 1] [St. Andrews, 1993], p. 30). Mormond is in Strichen.


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Re: General Sir Alexander WALLACE and family in India pre 1903
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 23:52 GMT (UK) »

Oh my!  Otto !

Welcome to RootsChat !  :) :)

How terrific you found us ! ..... were you able to learn anything new from our discussions here ?

Keith will be pleased to hear there is some Scottish baptisms and marriages for the WALLACE's after all !

I can't wait to hear the new discussions now !!

Annie  :)
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