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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 03 February 08 03:13 GMT (UK) »
National Archives Canada is still down but a search on findmypast gave at least two possibilities.  I couldn't check them as I don't have a membership but the best choices for a search on a Charles Wood, travelling with a William Wood between the years 1903 (when James was born) and 1907 when we know the mother died in Canada were:

Charles Wood  age 24  arrived 1904 from Liverpool to St. John N.B.

Charles Wood  age 30 arrived 1904 from Liverpool to St. John N.B.

Hopefully the National Archives site will be up again soon so we can check the lists.

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* ignore this post please............neither of these would be right

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 03 February 08 04:29 GMT (UK) »
Could this family work??  ???

1901 Wales Census, Bridgend, Glamorgan

Charles Wood   41        Head    Painter    born Barrow in Furness Lancs
Kate Wood       39        Wife                 born Glamorgan Cowbridge
Henry Wood      6         Son                  born Edinburgh
William Wood    8mths   Son                   born Glamorgan Cowbridge


William Wood birth registered in Bridgend Sept qtr 1900.
James Wood birth registered in Bridgend March qtr 1903.


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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 03 February 08 04:37 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Lesley..... they certainly look most promising.

If that is them, I wonder waht happened to Henry?

Yet another good lead.

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 03 February 08 16:45 GMT (UK) »
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Charles Wood   41        Head    Painter    born Barrow in Furness Lancs
Kate Wood       39        Wife                 born Glamorgan Cowbridge
Henry Wood      6         Son                  born Edinburgh
William Wood    8mths   Son                   born Glamorgan Cowbridge

That's quite a mix of locations.  Charles from Lancashire, Kate & William from Wales and Henry from Edinburgh, Scotland?

I would think that the location for Henry is incorrect if this is the family.  He was probably born in Eglwysilan which borders Glamorgan and Monmouthshire.  It's the only parish that would fit unless the family moved around a lot?  If this is a transcrition error, than the only birth I found that may fit is:

Births Sep 1894, Woods  Archibald Henry    Cardiff  11a 391

I could not find a death that fits this individual.

Nancy
Attwater - Kent & London England (All spelling variations)
Goodwin - Kent & London England
Cronin - Ontario & Ireland
Clancy - Peter Robinson Expedition - Ontario, Canada & Rockmills, Cork, Ireland
Kenneally - Ontario, Canada & Ireland
Redmond - Ontario, Canada & Ireland
Shepley - Ontario, Canada & Lancashire, England


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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 03 February 08 17:37 GMT (UK) »
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In 1964 when Willie was applying for his old age pension he contacted The Loyal True Blue & Orange home in Richmond Hill, Ontario to try and establish his proof of age.
According to their records:-
Registered as -  William Woods.
Date of Birth -  Jan 1 1901.
Place of Birth -  Wales.
Date of Admission to the Home – Sept 19 1907.
Former Residence – Nipigon, Ontario.
Father – Charles Woods, Nipigon, Ontario
Mother – Deceased.
Date of Discharge – Mar 19 1910.
Adopted by – Mr. Henry Thistlethwaite, Norwood, Ontario.

I may have found a possible death for the mother but it doesn't quite fit the above data:

Name: Edith Wood
Died: 29 Oct 1907
Location: York 
Gender: Female 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 
Birth Location: England 
 
Address:  612 Wellington Ave  (Very Poor Image-address may be incorrect?)
Occupation:  Housewife
Informant:  Charles Wood
Cause:  Mitral Stenosis-Edema Lungs - 10 Days

If this is correct, the children were given up prior to their mothers death?  There is a chance that Edith became ill and the Doctors told Charles that she would not survive.  Preparing for the worst, he may have arranged their care prior to her death.  This is all speculation though?

Nancy
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It looks like the above is probably incorrect.  I found a child born linked to the death:

William Charles Wood
Birth: 30 Sep 1907
Gender: Male 
County: York 
Father: Charles George A Wood
Mother: Edith Underhin  (Andrews crossed out)
Address:  612 Wellington Ave
Occupation:  Labourer

***** I doub't that Charles would have named two children William.

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Goodwin - Kent & London England
Cronin - Ontario & Ireland
Clancy - Peter Robinson Expedition - Ontario, Canada & Rockmills, Cork, Ireland
Kenneally - Ontario, Canada & Ireland
Redmond - Ontario, Canada & Ireland
Shepley - Ontario, Canada & Lancashire, England

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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 03 February 08 18:27 GMT (UK) »

If this is correct, the children were given up prior to their mothers death?  There is a chance that Edith became ill and the Doctors told Charles that she would not survive.  Preparing for the worst, he may have arranged their care prior to her death.  This is all speculation though?

Nancy 

Oh dear!  that's an unpleasant thought but possible I suppose.

You know ... I still can't figure out how Nipigon comes into the picture :-\



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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 03 February 08 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm ...... the more details we see on that one Nancy, the more doubtful it becomes.

As you say, they wouldn't have had two sons named William :-\
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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #25 on: Monday 04 February 08 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Not totally caught up on this thread, but saw that William became Wiford...when adopted...
Could the boy's name have been Wilfred William or William Wifred? Is it normal
to change a forename when adopting a child who is already named? I am wondering
if the nickname Willie might have been used, and the home perhaps thought it short for William...

more pure speculation...but stranger things have happened....  ;D  J.J.
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Re: Orphan Willie Woods – Help Please.
« Reply #26 on: Monday 04 February 08 06:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi JJ,

Willie was married under the name of Wilfred Ernest Thistlethwaite.

He was always know as Willie to his brother James and his children.

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