Janet,
I think I have looked at this John Roberts and Mary trying to find the parents of my 3x great grandfather Robert Roberts. My Robert Roberts was born 1844 Pontuchel. The only Robert Roberts that I could find from Gyffylliog was living with John Roberts 'saddler' and family, but I'm sure I have traced the son that is mentioned on the 1851 census is himself a saddler in later census. I have no idea what my Robert Roberts was in his early years, but he is classed as an Ag lab on the later census. This is my brick wall and I can't see me breaking it down at all.
Happy hunting
Kind regards
Nerys
This may be of some use it was included in some information I received under John Jones/Elizabeth Jones Descendants 17. Robert ROBERTS (Mary JONES-2, John-1) was born in 1843 in Gyffylliog, Denbighshire, Wales. He
appeared on the census in Mar 1851 in Ty Gwyn (Bontuchel), Gyffylliog, Denbighshire, Wales. Recorded as
scholar in Mar 1851. He appeared on the census in Apr 1861 in Pengraig, Llanynys, Denbighshire, Wales. In Apr
1861 he is described as a Saddler. He appeared on the census in Apr 1871 in 35 Clwyd Street, Ruthin,
Denbighshire, Wales. In Apr 1871 he is described as Saddler employing 1 boy. He appeared on the census in
Apr 1881 in 29 Clwyd Street, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. In Apr 1881 he is described as Saddler Master,
employing 2 men. He appeared on the census in Apr 1891 in 29 Clwyd Street, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales. In
Apr 1891 he is described as Saddler. He appeared on the census in Mar 1901 in 29 Clwyd Street, Ruthin,
Denbighshire, Wales. In Mar 1901 he is described as Saddler.
Robert ROBERTS and Grace JONES were married September quarter 1868 in Ruthin District, Denbighshire,
Wales.9 Grace JONES (daughter of * Thomas JONES and Grace EVANS) was born in 1846 in Llanfawr,
Merioneth, Wales. She appeared on the census in Mar 1851 in Llanfawr, Llanfawr, Merioneth, Wales.
(this is the best guess for a match for Grace Jones - there are 2 that might match, both with a father Thomas).
Have a good day Moe
