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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 20:42 GMT (UK) »
coachmen is not somthing i have touch on yet

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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Just be aware that with the advent of the motor car the role of a coachman was changing through this period 1900-1910.
Some had to become 'carters' while others just progressed to other jobs. Some would have learnt to drive the 'horseless carriage' and remained as chauffers.
There were huge changes with consequences for many during this period. With the 1911 census iminent we may see some changes to our ancestors 'traditional' roles.

My own Gt Gfather was a coachman but by 1912 he was a 'steward at a Gentlemans club'

That's not to say ALL coachmen disappeared but change was happening.
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Evans,  (Marylebone).
Algate,   (Wembury, Plymouth Devon)
Chammings, (Jacobstowe, Hatherleigh, Iddesleigh)
Chummings.  (Jacobstowe, Devon)
Taylor,  (Minterne, Dorset)
Taylor, Ozanne, le Huray.  (Guernsey).
Dunn,    ( North Grimston, Rillington).
Pickering, Forth,  (Crowland, Spalding).
Forth, (Welney, Norfolk)
Roberts.  (Ampthill).
Hippisley,Fry, Dagger.  (Bath,Somerset).
Dyer, White.  (Pontardawe. Bath.)
Rivis, (East Yorks.)
Daly, (Culmullin, Co. Meath)

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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 23:19 GMT (UK) »
its certainly is interesting to think my great great grandfather started off as a groom and progressed to a Coachman , the Mews where he worked still has Stables attached to them.
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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 13 March 08 08:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi eeyores4me

Was that Chester Mews? Have you been there, and have you any photographs? I will PM you just before I go.

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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 13 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Elizabeth

Thanks for your post. As your ancestors lived and worked in the same area as mine I would love to know the names of the Mews they lived in. We might be able to glean more information.

Mine were all over the place. Quebec, Belgrave, Egerton, Cambridge and
Lancaster Mews, among others in London. My GGgrandparents married at St Georges, Hanover Square in 1833, no occupation was given when he married.
The first record of him being a coachman was in 1840.  In 1871 he was living with a son in Belgrave Mews and listed as formerly coachman, sadly he died shortly after that.

My grandfather was still working as a domestic coachman in London in 1901, he had married and had been working as a coachman in Brussells prior to that.

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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 15 March 08 06:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello RBC..my GGrandfather was a coachman/groom in Cookham and came from a long line of coachmen (Turners). He eventually emigrated to Canada and was coachman and groom for a prominent family in Hamilton.  I have often wanted to have some idea what the "routes" were in Berkshire area and where the main coaching inns were, thought it might help.
GG eventually died poorly after not being allowed to ride the horses he had trained in the big races.
They showed up on the census..lucky for me..
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Turner: Bray, Berkshire, Canada
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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 15 March 08 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

one of mine was a "coachman" in 1841 and 1851 and a "private coachman" in 1861.   I have not really looked into exactly what that means.    Would it be different to a "Domestic coachman" working for a family do you think?   Or another word for the same thing?  Or perhaps an independent one - more like a taxi?   You've all got me thinking now ;D

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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 15 March 08 15:34 GMT (UK) »
well mine worked for a Doctor and was called a Domestic Coachman ???? he was the Doctors private Coachman.
So I assumed he had his own Carriage and Horses.
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Re: Domestic Coachmen
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 15 March 08 16:25 GMT (UK) »
interesting story