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Wise Family of Maidstone
« on: Friday 08 February 08 11:41 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find any info on Emily Jane Wise born in Maidstone about 1838.
I have her showing on Census info but seem to lack her parents details. In 1841
she seems to have a 65 year old father and a 30 year old mother.
Can anyone give me some concrete proof?
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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 February 08 11:47 GMT (UK) »
The problem with the 1841 is it doesnt show relationships - so you cant assume that 30+ year old Mary is William (65+) wife - or even daughter-in-law !

Found any baptisms ?

Found the family in 1851 ?
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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 February 08 11:53 GMT (UK) »
In 1851, I see that she and a couple of siblings from the 1841 are 'in laws' to an Arthur Buck - who is married to a Mary Ann

HO107/1610; Folio: 218; Page: 27 - Rochester St Margaret

This actually means 'step' dau and sons - so Mary Wise (albeit her age is a couple of years out) has remarried this Mr Buck.

The oldest Buck child looks to have been born c1846 - so look for a Buck/Wise marriage before that, and then a male Wise death before that - should help in determining who Emily's father was - if Baptisms dont ....

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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:00 GMT (UK) »
ok heres Emily Jane in 1851
6 Morden st, Rochester

Arthur Buck , married,40  head, bootmaker, Rochester

Arthur Charles Buck 4 Mo  son,  Rochester

Eliza Ann Buck 35   , dau, unm, rochester although looks like shes really abt 20 ish

Mary Ann Buck 46  wife, chatham

Mary Ann Buck 5  Dau , scholar, rochester

Mary Susanna Haines 22 visitor, widow, 43, chatham
 
Eliza Sharp 24 visitor, unm, Dover

Elizabeth Wise 17  dau in law, unm , newington

Emily Jane Wise 13  dau in law, maidstone

John Wise 11  11, son in law, maidstone

sure ive read somewhere that they used to put dau/son in law if they were there step dau/son ?

HO107; Piece: 1610; Folio: 218; Page: 27

still doesnt help if emilys mum was the 30 yr old with the 65 year old husband , i would think he is possibly emilys grandfather

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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:03 GMT (UK) »
MARY ANN WISE

 ARTHUR BUCK 
 22 MAR 1846   Holy Trinity, Milton By Gravesend, Kent, England
 
 
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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:05 GMT (UK) »
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The oldest Buck child looks to have been born c1846 - so look for a Buck/Wise marriage before that, and then a male Wise death before that - should help in determining who Emily's father was - if Baptisms dont ....

spot-on so far Jo !

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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:08 GMT (UK) »

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Mary Ann Buck


 Christening:  11 OCT 1846   Saint Margaret, Rochester, Kent, England
 
   Father:  Arthur Buck  Family
  Mother:  Mary Ann 
 
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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Eliza Ann Buck

   
 Christening:  28 APR 1850   Saint Margaret, Rochester, Kent, England

  Father:  Arthur Buck  Family
  Mother:  Mary Ann     
 
now wondering if the 35 yr old that looked like 20 yr old on the census is actually this one
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Re: Wise Family of Maidstone
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 February 08 12:18 GMT (UK) »
very hard to read on the image, and enumerated between Mary Ann (5) and Arthur (10 months)..


No sign of a male Wise dying before the Buck / Wise marriage ?
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