1891 look-up HAWDON

[Dalum]

I would be grateful if SKS could help me solve this little conundrum...

I have found this GRO marriage at FreeBMD

GRO Marriages SEP Qtr 1885    
HAWDON Charles Henry 
ALCOCK Fanny Ellen   
Caistor 7a  974

and this looks like the family in the 1901 census index, assuming "Ellen" is Fanny Ellen...

1901 census index
census place: Gt Grimsby
Charles H Hawdon 48  Watchmaker Shop Keeper Lincs Grimsby   
Ellen Hawdon 40   Lincs Cleethorpes      
Sidney Hawdon 11 Lincs Grimsby
Alexander Hawdon 7 Lincs Grimsby

However, I think Fanny Ellen was born in Sheffield. Here she is in 1881 living with an uncle and aunt:

1881 census
PRO Ref RG11    Piece 3272    Folio 73
92 Cleethorpe Road
Clee With Weelsby, LIN

Charles ALCOCK Head Marr 53 Fish Salesman Burton Joyce, NTT
Mary A. ALCOCK Wife Marr 56 Fish Salesman Wife Bolham, NTT
Fanny ALCOCK Niece Unm 20  Sheffield YKS

so... would SKS be able to find the HAWDON family in the 1891 census to see whether it lists Cleethorpes or Sheffield as her birthplace.

I have considered the possibility that Fanny might have died and Charles remarried to an Ellen, but I can't find those events in the GRO. (and Ellen is the right age to be Fanny Ellen).

Thanks in advance

Hugh in Sheffield

[Tati]

Hi Hugh,

I'm not sure you'll like this 

1891
RG12/2616 31 9
Great Grimcby, Lincolnshire
248 Cleethorpe Rd
Charles H Hawdon, head, 39, Watchmaker, b. Grimsby
Rose E, wife, 30, b. Cleethorpes
Sidney S, son, 1, b. Grimsby
Gertrude Lockwood, serv, 17, General servant, b. do. 

[CatOne]

Marriage of Charles and Rose?

Charles Henry Hawdon September 1885 Caistor Vol 7a Page 974
Brides - Rose Ellen Sleight or Fanny Ellen Alcock

so looks like Fanny Ellen married other groom John Withington?

[Tati]

Just had a look at the marriage you mention. So it just seems he married Rose Ellen Sleight and Fanny Ellen married John Withington ....

ooops!!! Sorry Cat!!

[Dalum]

   

oops, that was a duff marriage, he married the other girl (so if it is Fanny she married the other guy  ).

Back to the much scribbled on drawing board

Thanks!

Hugh

edit: sorry, crossing messages 

[Dalum]

...and now found the right Fanny, born Sheffield, in the 1901 index.

Sorry my first message was a bit premature - the result of imaptience 

Hugh

[Tati]

Here's 1891:

RG12/2612 51 1
Great Grimsby
2 Peppercorn Walk?
John Withington, head, 36, Stationary Engine Fitter, b. Manchester Lancs
Fanny E, wife, 31, b. Sheffield
Ethel, dau, 5, b. Grimsby
Charles, son, 1, b. do.
Jack, son, 2 weeks, b. do.

 

[Tati]

1901
RG13/3090 119 15
Great Grimsby
8 Fildes St
John Withington, head, 46, Hydraulic Fitter, b. Lancs Droulsden
Fanny E, wife, 40, b. Yorks Sheffield
Ethel, dau, 15, b. Grimsby
Charlie, son, 11, b. do.
Fred, son, 10, b. do.

 

[Dalum]

Thanks Tati,

One reason why the HAWDON marriage looked so right was that Fanny's father was a watchmaker like Charles HAWDON 

(In contrast, her grandfather was transported to Australia)

Hugh