1841 Census lookup please

[csi.grissum]

Hi all

I was wondering if SKS could possibly look up a Thomas WHITE  bn c1816 maybe Ramsgate Kent, not quite sure of the area but  I do know that it is definitely Kent county.

He maybe married wife name Emma bn around same time, his parents are
William White bn c1785 and Mary Ann bn c1785 possibly Kent area.

If you could possibly find any of these I would be very grateful,
thank you for your time and trouble.

Kim

[ricky1]

Hi Kim
1841

A possible
Catherine Martin 55 In        Not born in county
William White 60    In          Not born in county
Mary Ann   "   60                 Not born in county
Thomas      "  25 chemist     Not born in county
Emma         "  25                 Not born in county
Thos          "  3 months       Not born in county
Susanna Gould 25 F.S        Not born in county

living at Liverpool Terrace, Ramsgate, Kent

H0107/ 469/ 6
folio 44
page 8

ricky

[csi.grissum]

Hi Ricky

Thank you so much for that, Thomas who is 3mths old is down as Folkestone on the 71,81,91,01 Census I wonder if the others are from there also.

It would be great if I could find his birth and his mother and fathers marriage but like everyone else I hit a brick wall on not finding them     , seems like they dont want me to have their certificate lol,
it would be so much easier if they had a different surname.

Anyway thank you once again,
Kim

[ricky1]

Hi Kim

have looked on the 1851/61 for a Thomas White born Folkestone, and had no luck, plus the family I gave for the 1841, I think I have found them on the 1851, but with no son Thomas

ricky

[casalguidi]

Hi Kim

Just a personal opinion but I'm not sure that the Thomas WHITE in London 1871-1891 bc1843ish Folkestone is the same one as in Ramsgate 1841 that you were enquiring about

If it is the Thomas who is in London 1871+ that you are trying to find earlier what else do you know about him ie. address/ father's name & occupation/any witnesses on marriage certificate?

Casalguidi

[casalguidi]

I'll type this out whilst I have the information in front of me - just in case there is some substance to it

1851

1 Dingle Lane, All Saints Poplar, Middlesex

Jonathan DRAKE head mar 30 lab b.March Cambridgeshire
Sarah wife 33 b.Colnbrook Bucks
Thomas son 17 lab b.Folkestone Kent
Deborah dau 8 b.Oxfordshire
Raphael son 5 b.Poplar Middlesex
Elizabeth dau 1 b.Poplar Middlesex
Emma dau 1 b.Poplar

RG9/310 folio 7 page 8
..........................

1851

Cassington, Oxfordshire

Jonathan DRAKE lodger mar 21 railway lab b.Wymondham Norfolk
Sarah wife 23 b.Coldbrook Bucks
Thomas son 7 b.Folkestone Kent
lodging in the household of a WIGGINS family

HO107/1730 folio 503 page 6

A couple of observations:

Jonathan would appear to have been rather young to have had a child born c1843/1844 ie. when he would only have been 13/14 himself at that time - not impossible of course but rather unusual shall we say which would lead me to think that perhaps Sarah had been "married" before - perhaps to the father of son Thomas bc1843/1844 Folkestone

Thomas DRAKE bc1843/1844 Folkestone disappears after the 1861 census - presuming he didn't die could he have reverted to his "birth" name of WHITE?

Jonathan & Sarah DRAKE are in Poplar by 1861 - near to where your Thomas is in 1871 and, furthermore, they have a daughter Deborah as did your Thomas.  Ok so Deborah was not a particularly rare name but it wasn't that common either.

There is a marriage of a Jonathan DRAKE with one of the four possible spouses being a Sarah WHITE in the North Witchford registration district (Cambridgeshire) December quarter 1849 ref. 14 258 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Any thoughts?

Casalguidi